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Just randomly sharing my experience here. My sister told me a few weeks ago she was going to change for a new phone (a Motorola, she likes AOSP-like experience). I noticed that her new phone wouldn't get a jack.

"Yeah, I know, I hope I can make it work with a USB-adapter". She has nice headphones that she likes to use, so USB-C earplugs were not an option.

Fast forward to today, she told me the adapter she got starts to malfunction:

  • she has to twitch the jack in the adapter for the thing to work
  • when she plugs the adapter in, Google Assistant takes over and randomly starts skipping songs.

She's now considering getting wireless earbuds, but she's not a fan of having to recharge them to be able to use them, and is also cautious about the e-waste potential.

I have a Moto G84 which does the job. It's not the best phone in the world, I'm eyeing a flagship from time to time and keep the G84 as a "connected walkman", but would it break today, I would probably get a G55 (https://www.notebookcheck.net/Motorola-Moto-G55-smartphone-review-Inexpensive-doesn-t-have-to-be-boring.932900.0.html)

That's it for me, do you have similar experiences to share?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

A good quality DAC connected to your USB port will give you far better sound than having a headphone jack.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I initially held on to the headphone jack but nowadays I've completely stopped caring. My Galaxy Buds 2 Pros are pretty dang good even by audiophile standards and the convenience of TWS is quite nice. For my wired IEMs the 9$ Apple dongle works just fine with my Galaxy S24+.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Headphone jack and removable battery are the two features I will not compromise on. Makes selecting a new phone pretty damn easy. I would have loved a fairphone but sorry, no exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (5 children)

At some point, you're just not going to have a phone at all then, the way things are going.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Add ip rated and removable storage and you have my list. I have had to compromise on the removable battery on the last few phones though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

My device has both - on top of headphone jack and removable battery.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What is your current phone?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a nice device, it was on my list for a while, but a bit too chunky

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I actually quite like the Bluetooth DAC I got because of the disappearance of my headphone jack. It breaks that physical attachment of my headphones to my phone while giving very good quality audio.

I'd recommend checking out the Fiio BTR line if interested.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Regarding your sister's issue: that happened to me less when I paid a little more for a quality adapter. I think I got a two pack for $15 and the cord has some rubber protection where the wire turns into USB C and where it turns into a headphone jack. Haven't had the same issue your sister is having ever since.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can't get a good quality DAC for $15. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, do you still have the references of those?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Cheaper than I thought:

https://a.co/d/hr9AG01

Those are the ones I've been using for 6 months or more with no issues.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She's now considering getting wireless earbuds, but she's not a fan of having to recharge them to be able to use them, and is also cautious about the e-waste potential.

I was wondering if there exists a bluetooth device that connects to your phone, and the device itself is just a headphone jack.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

https://www.fiio.com/btr15 yes sorta?

Its a bluetooth DAC with its own battery, but idk how convenient this is vs just a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle. There's other models and brands too varying from very cheap to extremely expensive (audiophile circlejerk material).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Fiio, mpow, others make them

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

A "must", only for a subset of users.

If it were truly a "must", more people would be complaining.

I get it, you find Bluetooth unappealing for reasons, just like I find larger phones unappealing. Unfortunately, we're a minority, neither of these are a "must" for most people.

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