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They hate democracy almost as much as Republicans. (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I just realized America’s entire history has been right wing propaganda.

There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even tacitly take part. And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon all the apparatus and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all

-Mario Savio

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This reeks of right wing propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

this is literally, 100% right wing propaganda

"vote for the lesser evil" has always sucked... but there's a pretty big difference between neoliberal and guy who directly says he wants to be dictator, already tried to overthrow the government once, and is promising mass deportation (on a genocidal level) and theocracy

if he wins, it's the end of the ability to vote third party...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

3rd party candidates will never win. Ross Perot did the best in 92 and did not capture a single state.

There is no 3rd party candidate currently doing as well as Perot was doing in 96 - when he dropped out of the race - much less as well as he did in 92.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_presidential_election

Heck, there isn't one doing as well as Anderson did in 1980:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_United_States_presidential_election

All a progressive 3rd party candidate can accomplish is a Biden loss.

If you want 4 more years of Trump, vote 3rd party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

All a progressive 3rd party candidate can accomplish is a Biden loss.

Sounds like Biden should make some compromises in order to get those votes then doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Watch Trump come out during the RNC convention and condemn Israel and the genocide. Just raw dogging that cognitive dissonance. Get Dan Scavino on the phone. Let’s do a focus group and just fuck this shit up. /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He literally can't, because the compromise progressives want is to stop the attack on Gaza and Biden can't stop that, only Bibi can and he is absolutely intent on killing everyone in Gaza.

Cutting off aid to Gaza isn't going to stop the attack because Israel isn't reliant on current aid to make it happen. They have a stockpile built up from decades of support.

So, Biden tells Israel to get fucked, he loses the campaign donations from the Israel pac to get elected.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2023/12/pro-israel-pacs-poised-to-spend-big-to-unseat-progressive-members-of-congress-in-2024-election-cycle

https://thepoliticswatcher.com/pages/articles/congress/2023/12/7/aipac-donations-congress-members-unveiling-influence

There is no equivalent donation machine on the Palestinian side, they have bigger things to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Someone go tell Bloomberg that campaign money is a better indicator of electoral victory than voters. I’m sure he’d be happy to hear that he won the presidency.

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