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From my experience i would say i'm getting more familliar with pain and just registering it less rather than actually having any gains. I think i will be stopping it from now on . Maybe i shouldn't have continued after i started feeling pain ? Will see if the pain stop or will go to the doctors. Anyway thoughts ?

EDIT : Gentleman/woman i am pleased to announce the pain has completely ceased to exist and seems like i hadn't suffered any damage and gotta say thanks for your concern lemmy .

Also what about the chinese guys beating up wood if there is no gain why are they doing that ?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This could be bro science, but I'm fairly positive that repeated blows to your bones strengthens them over time, as long as you're not overdoing it.

My anecdotal experience is sort of murky, because I started doing martial arts when I was still going through puberty, but my knuckles are super tough. Of course it could be the result of learning better form and gradually getting used to the pain, or maybe even killing off some of the nerve endings that should warn me that I've experienced an injury. It's hard to say.

I've definitely known muay thai guys that ostensibly sought to strengthen their shins over time by kicking harder and harder things, but again, possibly just bro science.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

@THE_MASTERMIND dude what are you doing. Punching wood is not good for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying I can't train myself by punching wood all day every day for years to one day be able to punch my way out of a coffin after being buried alive?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Might not be the best option. Put in your will that you want to be buried with your axe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It was actually bricks and cement but yeah i agree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@THE_MASTERMIND okay yeah not good either. Therr's a bunch of hand excercises you can do to build up muscle strength, might be a better option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah i am stopping from today onwards

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should really listen to the recent Behind the Bastards podcasts on G. Gordon Liddy. You’ll be inspired to level up to fire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ow wow - I’ve fallen behind on that podcast.

Liddy’s autobiography should be enough to freak anyone out. I can’t imagine what BtB is going to dig out on him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I've done this for years due to drunken rage. I probably have a ton of poorly healed hair line fractures in my right hand. This last time, I feel I've done permanent damage to my wrist, it just aches is certain positions. I have since bought a punching bag and filled it with shredded memory foam with rice at the bottom for weight. The only "positive" thing I have gained is the ability to punch hard enough to hurt myself. Don't punch walls, doors, hard surfaces in general. In my experience they always win that fight.

Edit: I suck at typing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Go to the ER if you think it's broken. These are some signs:

Pain directly on top of the bone (where there is no soft tissue)

Severe swelling or bruising on the top of the bone

Loss of sensation, numbness, tingling

A "cracking" sound at the time of the injury

The area looks lopsided or deformed

Can't use your hand, can't move it, can't close your fist, can't pick things up. Bad signs.

Edit: Oh, I read that wrong. I thought you wanted advice on your hand lol. I'll just leave this up bc it's useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That is useful, thanks

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Username definitely doesn't check out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Or as the french say, no pain, no baguettes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

There's a theory of hormesis. A little pain. Stressing the body and causes you to get stronger. Some of this is true for bones. But you definitely shouldn't be hitting a hard surface to the point of pain.

If the pain is persisting even after you stopped hitting the wall, there is a good chance you have some bone damage that might require external intervention. If the pain persists you should probably see a doctor, and most likely get an x-ray.

The body is highly tuned to keep you healthy, if something is painful you should stop.

If your goal is better bone health, there's many things you can do for that, a diet rich in bioavailable foods, resistance exercise, and good metabolic health in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AVfBzJoN8

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also tell me more about the theory of hormesis

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis

Tldr: a little stress is good for you. Encourages your body to adapt. A lot of stress is bad for you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So punch walls softer now ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you must punch something, a punching bag is a good place to start. Punching a hard object might encourage fractures.

Think about it like weightlifting. You don't want to try to lift a thousand kg at once. You find your limit, you push it a little bit, you give your body time to recover etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah might have to get one of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do workout but i mostly eat unhealthy i guess because its easy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. It's good to know where your starting. I would recommend selecting a Diet, bonus points consulting your doctor, and working on that. Probably will have more impact then hitting walls :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a "doctor" when i get sick or something i go to hospital and see any doctor available. And i am lean like no fat to lose i used to hit the gym but can't anymore because of the commute but i do bodyweight work outs now .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

A diet just means the food you eat not that you have to lose weight.

Your metabolic system is often dictated by your diet. The food that goes in.

You indicated your diet isn't great. You have a self-awareness of that.

There are diets, see the YouTube video I linked to from the medical lecture, that doctors do endorses encouraging stronger bones. But basically a diet heavy in bioavailable nutrients, without causing oxidative stress, and low in sugar. Are good diets

I.e. carnivore, ketogenic, Mediterranean, take your pick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah i'm sorry for not enough contexts i meant like i eat foods that are filled with a lot fat and which icrease fat so i meant it at that context but yeah i should better my diet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Small nit to pick - Fat doesn't make you fat. Sugar and increased blood glucose will make you fat. Because they cause a insulin spike, and insulin tells your fat cells to store the energy in your blood stream.

eat some fatty meat (protein + fat): not get fat

Eat a milk shake (fat + sugar) : get fat

Eat french fries (carbs /sugar): get fat

Eat butter (fat) : not get fat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I once went three months without any sugar except from fruits and i can't say i missed out on much and definetly was better diet in terms of health and taste. And i was also imploying sugar as the fatty food and not meat as i don't consider meat fatty except when cooked heavily with oil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Start with an xray on the hand but the reality is an xray misses way to much and I would suggest an mri to see what damage you did

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

They did a cat scan to determine that I’d snapped a ligament in my wrist.