Antisemitism sucks. So does relentless zionism. Stop accusing all jewish people of being militaristic zionists. Stop comparing Israel to jews. Israel doesn't represent all jews. Saudi Arabia doesn't represent all muslims. Russia doesn't represent all orthodox christians. Being anti Israel doesn't make you antisemitic. Being antisemitic doesn't make you anti Israel. Don't confuse the two. One can cherish jewish people, culture, history and be anti Israel to whatever extent. I'm partly jewish and don't support Israel for example.
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Stop accusing all jewish people of being militaristic zionists.
The UK has been openly hostile towards its Jewish residents for centuries. Some of its highest ranking political leaders are openly anti-semitic. Much of the Zionism of the 19th century was a direct consequence of British state and popular leaders villainizing Jewish residents and businesses in the exact same manner as the Germans did a decade or two later.
Meanwhile, state media wants to tie all Jewish people to the Israeli cause, even going so far as to accuse anti-Israeli jewish people and groups as being anti-semitic themselves and hounding any kind of Palestinian peace activists for being "terrorist sympathizers" by default.
So its sort of a rock-and-hard-place for UK Jews (particularly Hasidic Jews, who categorically reject Zionism) who have had to deal with this kind of state-sanctioned harassment and violence their entire lives, to disassociate from Zionism. Both the anti-Semitic bigots and the pro-Israeli flaks seem intent on tying you to the mast-head of this sinking ship.
Saudi Arabia doesn’t represent all muslims. Russia doesn’t represent all orthodox christians.
That's been another kind-of annoying habit of mass media. Every Muslim from Minnesota to Mecca gets treated like the most radical orthodox Wahhabist. We've got US Senators and British PMs alike waxing poetic about "Radical Islamic Extremism" and demanding every practitioner of the faith make formal public apologizes for whatever nonsense MBS or Ayatollah Khomeini is on about this week.
Similarly, god forbid you know a bit of Cyrillic. People lose their fucking minds over the Russia-Ukraine shit if you're not on the "right" side (which, at least in American politics, varies entirely based on your domestic ideological leaning).
One can cherish jewish people, culture, history and be anti Israel to whatever extent.
Not according to the western press. You need to pick a fucking side. And then it becomes a competition to be the most rabid and deranged in your support of that side. Otherwise, you're no better than a traitor.
If you keep telling people that any criticism of Israel is antisemitism, and the IDF goes out and commits war crimes, don't be surprised if people say "well if I'm gonna be called antisemitic for hating war crimes I might as well go all the way to actual antisemitism". It seems kind of obvious.
It's interesting how often people who oppose the existence of Israel (not to be confused with being rightfuly critical of its actions) are the first too make us feel unwelcome and tell Jew who facing antisemitism outside of Israel, that we just need to deal with it (and even expect it, acording to you), and if we don't like it, we should just leave.. But where is it we should be going..?
It's almost as if what you really want is for Jews to just not exist.
It's as if antizionism is like antisemitism 🤔
Oh wait, they're literally the same. Most "antizionists" I've known and also seen online are covert antisemites.
I do think there can be legitimate criticism of Israel and zionism that is not antisemitic (like accepting that Jews deserve a safe place to live on our ancestral land, but also that ethno-states are a bad thing), but I do agree that, especially online almost all anti-zionism comes from an antisemitic place, or at least an ignorant one.