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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I told you guys. I've been waiting for you guys to catch up for ages, so we can go drag these fucks out of their homes, now they've gone and built moats

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The good thing is that these moats need fuel to work which means they'll eventually stop burning.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lava moat is better, stops zombies and creepers

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wonder if this is part of a cyclical history and this is how we ended up with kings/nobility in the first place? Like we've been in this situation before where the Earth's climate goes to shit and the only people with the resources to make it through the Dark Ages are this class of wealthy individuals who were also the cause of the Dark Ages, but were able to build bunkers/castles to make it through their obscene wealth that they had accumulated.

So at some point in a few hundred years, we'll have these kingdoms carved out, all centered on these new tech billionaires and other families that were able to carve out their own fiefdoms. I'd love to see a "fantasy" series that starts out as sort of typical Fantasy, with maybe medieval technology, but then gradually over time it's revealed that they're survivors of a post-apocalypse (though I'm sure it's been around for decades, I know Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun series kind of fits in that realm, along with Dungeon Crawl Classics for an RPG). The "Great Families" will be revealed to be the Musks, Gates', Bezos', Zuckerburgs, Ballmers, Ellisons, Pages, and whoever else has been building their own bunkers in secret.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Here is a silly take:

The billionaires could use their doomsday bunker money to try and help solve the global issues we are having instead of just saying "fuck it I'm going underground."

[–] [email protected] 85 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You don't become a billionaire by caring about other people.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

In fact, you can't!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I say we convince them society is collapsing, let them hide in their bunkers, wait for the flaming moat fuel to run out, then wall them in.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No need for a wall, just grade over it all with some bulldozers, plant some trees, and make a park where my dog can have a nice place to shit while I read a book.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I don't know... do you want to risk them finding a way to dig themselves out?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Pour concrete down the ventilation shafts before making the park. They won't realize what's happened until they're too oxygen deprived to do anything except panic for a few minutes and then asphyxiate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I have Great Danes, they'll never dig through that much dog shit.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Podcaster Christina Randall, who has over 1.58 million subscribers, thinks so. Randall recently observed that Zuckerberg’s reported bunker is one of approximately 15 end-of-days projects being undertaken by billionaires worldwide and said the Biblical Book of Revelation, which predicts the end of the world, is being fulfilled. “Revelation 6:15 says that the kings of the Earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains,” Randall said.

Okay, the guardian

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

The best defense is a strong community that loves you. Literally living around you.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't matter. They're going to burn with the rest of us. They won't be able to keep staff as it gets worse, and many of them lack any real ability to care for themselves. Pampered fucks are facing a grim future they made sure was going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The staff won't keep them. What security guard is going to agree to protect Elon Musk after the apocalypse? They'll shoot him in the back and take the keys to the kitchen.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

These things have been thought through. The money may be worthless, but the highly controlled access to food, guns, ammo and medicine would be adequate leverage.

I expect, at some point, a leader would emerge with more cred than, "I started a company, " but they'd need to get permanent access and they'd have the same problem: control, rationing.

All this stuff is just people fantasizing about being smart and solving hard problems. The truest hard problem is we are not meant to live alone or like Morlocks.

There are ways to have a retreat hidden in plain site.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, once the global economy collapses, their billions are worthless and the people with the guns are the most powerful. How long until their private security force is like "hold on, why are we following you again?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You section off the food and booze, so that only you can access it and then have two security teams that never intermingle. Nothings guaranteed, but it would be harder to coup you.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I feel that I became a little bit stupider after reading this article.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

bunkers are terrible in general because of air/exhaust problems. If you know where they are you can just tape all the vents shut. What they should be investing in is submersibles.

Either way this a grotesque squandering of society's resources.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Urge to build guillotines intensifies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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