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Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

so I ran into this fucking garbage earlier, which goes so hard on the constituent parts of "the spam is the point", an ouroborosian self-reinforcing loop of Just More Media Bro Just One More Video Bro You'll See Bro It'll Be The Best Listicle Bro Just Watch Bro, and the insufferably cancerous "the medium is the message" that if it were a voltron it'd probably have its own unique Special Moment sequence instead of being one of the canned assembly shots

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

various topics (e.g., AI news, crypto, fitness, personal finance)

That sure is a specifc selection of topics.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wish YouTube would ban this shit wholesale, but it’s Google and of course they won’t.

Aside: I’ve been hammering “Don’t recommend this channel” on every video that remotely smells like AI slop for a while and so far that seems to keep the feed fairly clean.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if/when I use youtube, I use it entirely statelessly (and thus also without account)

it's a remarkably good way to see some utter lunacy, but it also precludes that option of dealing with shit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah. I ran without an account for the longest time (and used alternative frontends like Freetube, Invidious, yt-dlp, etc.) but I caved and made one just so I could curate my feed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

also cc @dgerard (for pivot maybe)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

re the youtube phenomenon, ran into this as an interesting post recently, although fuck if I can remember where I saw it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

From the "flipping through LessWrong for entertainment" department:

What effect does LLM use have on the quality of people's thinking / knowledge?

  • I'd expect a large positive effect from just making people more informed / enabling them to interpret things correctly / pointing out fallacies etc.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'd think the AI safety chuds would have more reservations about using GPT, which they believe has sapience, to learn things. They have the concept of an AI being a good convincer, which, hey, idiots, how have none of you thought the great convincing has started? Also, how have none of you realised that maybe you should be a little harder to convince in general???

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It is a long-established truth that it's significantly easier to con someone who thinks they're smarter than you. Also as I think about it a little bit there seems to be a reasonable corollary of their approach towards Bayesian thinking that you not question anything that matches your expectations, which is exactly how you get taken advantage of by the kind of grifter they're attached to. Like, they've been thinking about the singularity for long enough that the Sams (bankman-fried, Altman, etc) have a well-developed script for what they expect the first stages to look like and it is, as demonstrated, very easy to fake that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The findings revealed a significant negative correlation between frequent AI tool usage and critical thinking abilities, mediated by increased cognitive offloading

i think it was posted somewhere in techtakes https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/15/1/6

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

yeah, I posted in previous stubsack I think

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I hope everyone is ready for the constant overlap between politics and AI / Silicon Valley; because I'm not.

Trump Admin Accused of Using AI to Draft Executive Orders (Source Bluesky Thread).

I'm not 100% sure I buy that the EOs were written by AI rather than people who simply don't care about or don't know the details; but it certainly looks possible. Especially that example about the Gulf of Mexico. Either way I am heartened that this is the conclusion people jump to.

Aside: I also like how much media is starting to cite bluesky (and activitypub to a lesser extent). I assume a bunch of journalists moved off of twitter or went multi-platform.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Isn’t this one of the things that LW was spooked by? Giving the reins to an AI? Won’t someone think of the wrongers???

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thanks, I hate it.

Especially because Trump's legal teams have historically been more than incompetent enough to produce this kind of work on their own.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

yeah bsky is where journalists post now so it's where they scrape stories from

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Xcancel is giving me issues so gimme a sec. That said: another killing. https://x.com/st_rev/status/1882852779582239053

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

rat death squads are a thing now? this wasn't on my 2025 bingo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is there any rundown on this backstory for people who missed it happening live over the last few years that doesn't get sidetracked into theological disputes with the murder cult?

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