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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago

It's to bad for them that they didn't write all of that at a 45 degree angle. The magic only works when written that way.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“Without prejudice” — you keep using that phrase, but i do not think you know what it means.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I like how it's scribbled on an unopened envelope, presuming the nature of the contents. The dissonance here is loud.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At what point do ya make a stamp or stickers to speed this process up? You can see he started down that road with the labels over the address, but didn’t see it fully through. Probably because FedEx Kinkos wouldn’t let him get stickers made without an international treaty.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A sticker wouldn't count according to sovcit logic. Basically if it's not pants on head insane chicken scratch then it isn't binding under their "wet ink" belief. Also something about red ink is special, but I haven't quite nailed that down yet. It doesn't help that sovcit lore is harder to trace than time travel in the movie Primer, and has more continuity issues than the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I would assume it's because most government forms require you to fill them out in blue or black in. Being the edgelords they are, they picked a color of ink that would be rejected by most government institutions.

Nope, crazier than that:

They use red ink (or sometimes even blood) instead of blue or black ink to signify to the evil shadow government and their puppet judges that it is the true flesh-and-blood person who is signing a particular document and not the corporate shell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Oh man, I had gone down a red herring with it not long ago. I figured it was because of the original Hungarian Blood Oath/Contract. Good info! I'll update my sovcit lore accordingly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_oath_(Hungarians)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm almost afraid to ask, but I keep seeing this shit... what is so magical about a "wet ink" signature? Ink dries fast, so I presume this means it's the original signture and not a copy of whatever contract (or treaty?) in question. I'm so confused.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Really it's just a misunderstanding of contract law. While it's getting less common, because of esignatures growing in popularity, wet ink signatures used to be required on some contracts. Which is really someone just physically making a mark on a physical piece of paper. Basically sovcits decided that "wet ink" applied to everything, which I can assure you is not the case.

Here's some more actual info about wet ink signatures:

https://www.adobe.com/acrobat/business/resources/wet-signature.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

A misunderstanding of contract law explains the whole sovereign citizen movement.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Next time my boss messages me I’ll reply with, “I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU.” Since he’s in Australia I expect this to work without a problem.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Wonder if your boss will be cool about it and just point out that you do in fact have a treaty with him since you know he pays you for services.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

add the all important All rights reserved without prejudice in your signature

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Can't go wrong.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I bet they don't return the cheques from the illegal government they get in the post.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of course not, that's from the secret account they had all along and it's actually win.

I've been stressed lately and how do I wish I could contract what they have: Intoxicating feeling of being in the special know, being the enlightened who knows the way of no pain and no responsibility, the trick of getting only the sweet side of everything. No responsibilities, only benefits. Being the king, who only wins and wins, while some unenlightened fools run like hamsters in a wheel.

It's like being in the fantasy, except it's here and it's tangible.

But no, here I am in the clutches of the cold, unloving reality where there is no free dinner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I’ve been stressed lately and how do I wish I could contract what they have [...] It’s like being in the fantasy, except it’s here and it’s tangible.

I think you just described every toxic fandom, ever. You could always take the plunge and go deep on your favorite TV show or book.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"I do not understand your intent"

Reading the letter might help with that.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's a letter regarding child support payments. I guarantee that they know what the intent is.

I'll go one further: I guarantee that child support payments contributed to their adoption of sov cit delusions, or their adoption of sov cit delusions contributed to their divorce.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Bottom one is from the US census. Which you're required by federal law fill out (specifically written in the US Constitution). I don't know if anyone would actually come after you for not filling it out, but I'm pretty sure writing crazy shit all over it and returning it would raise some red flags...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I only answer the how many people live here question and leave the rest blank. No one has bothered following up with me. Guess it doesn't happen enough to make it worth enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I've never had anything but the short version personally. I always just filled it out cause it takes all of 5 minutes. You raise sort of a curious question though and it does appear that answering all the questions is mandatory. Apparently, at least according to the source below, they use statistical methods to fill in questions left blank. Also, again according to the source below, no one has been prosecuted since 1970 for failure to fill out a census. With that in mind they're probably fine sending in scribblings, but they might send an agent to their door after 5 mailings to do the enumeration in person.

https://www.prb.org/resources/u-s-2020-census-faq/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was referring to the short version. I only answer how many people are living here and leave the other 10 or so blank.

If the government wants to go through the effort of court battle I obviously don't welcome that but I acknowledge that they can. Zero interest in a fight about this. Doesn't really matter they can get their data other ways with or without my help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I don’t know anything about the system in the US, but I know that here in Canada they won’t take you to court instantly if you don’t fill in the census (short or long, similar to the US). Instead they’ll send you a few reminder letters first, and if that doesn’t work they’ll try to send a census working to your home to ask you the questions you missed. AFAIK, this is done to try to prevent a situation where you’re taking to court someone who perhaps can’t read (due to vision or literacy or language problems), or who has other trouble filling out the forms.

So long as you cooperate with the census worker, you won’t see the inside of a courtroom. AFAIK they only take people to court who don’t cooperate with the census taker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't really looking to fight you on your personal choices. Just thought it was interesting and relevant to the post. You do you...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry that is on me I came off hostile and that wasn't my intention. Cheers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

No problem. Have a good one!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

It looks like they are trying to cast spells in legalize jargon. It is missing the simulated bloody thumb print in red ink though.

Someone should pass around that the reason they have so many problems with this working is because it all has to actually be in Latin.

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