WELCOME TO THE NEW HOME OF RULE : 196

[+] [email protected] -11 points 4 months ago (19 children)

I've just read the other Post at blahaj.zone and now I want to give you (and your team) some encouragement!

Lots of People are upset but I'm not one of them. I like 196 for the Vibes and the memes not the Instance. Some People act like the Instance was THE THING why people subscribed. And (at least for me) it was not. It was literally the only Community (I'm aware of) I subscribed to on blahaj.zone.

And I also agree with you that some Moderation decisions were a bit.... Questionable.

Keep up the good work and don't let the other Folks drag you down, there is always grumbling when things change! 🌈

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago

thanks! I agree with a lot of what you said

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I see you're getting a lot of criticism so I felt the need to say I support the decision.

The idea behind Lemmy is that users can be a part of any instance they want and not be a part of any instance they don't. The same communities can exist on multiple instances and users can subscribe to all of them, some of them, or none of them. Mods are users too so I see no shame in instance hopping. As a user of Lemmy.ca, literally nothing changes for me besides the words after the "@"

To emphasize how little things changed for me, I was actually already subscribed to this community before the announcement was made. I will continue to stay subscribed to the other community on lemmy.blahaj.zone as well. Nothing has changed for me and my subscribed feed.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If they dont want to be mods under a specific instance, thats fine. Whats not fine announcing the community will be archived and locked, move to (insert instance here) for this community going forward, with functionally zero warning or even a damned poll about it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone! There's nothing preventing you from doing that. Lemmy is designed specifically for this scenario. If you do create one, I'd subscribe to it! It doesn't matter to me where the content is coming from as long as it's content I like. I'll subscribe to a dozen versions of 196. Nothing changes for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

You can create your own community on lemmy.blahaj.zone!

That's seriously underestimating the time it takes to create a new community if the old community isn't on board. [email protected] recently moved to [email protected] , but the mods made sure to ping everyone to inform them of the change.

Not allowing members to take over the former community seems power tripping.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except the 196 community is being squatted on with a permanent redirect to here. I can respect not wanting to mod on a specific instance, but forcing everyone to move (over stepping down as mod and setting up shop somewhere else), especially out of the blue without consulting with the community, feels pretty shitty. The mods personally might not enjoy the instance's moderation policy, but I think large parts of the community do! At least leave the space for the people who don't want to migrate

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

Then they can literally make their own Community in minutes. This is the strength of the Fediverse!

Moss and the Mod-Team are the ones to call this shot and they did.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's their shot to call to move themselves. Telling everyone else to move feels shitty. I imagine a lot of people will prefer to stay on blahaj, so we'll likely have to create a c/197 or something. It would've been so much easier to just hand over the reigns to someone else, put up a post with "hey, the core mod team is moving, you can find us over here", and let community members decide which one, or both, communities they feel better about participating in. From the reactions on the blahaj post, not many community members agree with this move.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

It is also their shot to move the Commnity.

If there are so many people angry about this, a new community will soon emerge. The only thing "lost" if people over at blahaj.zone create 197 would be the number of subscribers. And when so many people are so upset about the change, you could assume they would willingly flock to this new community. Like People did with [email protected] and [email protected].

But if this doesn’t happen, it would mean that people are not angry enough to make such a move or just don't care enough about a change like that. For example, I don't really care at all. I was already subscribed here and didn't even notice anything at first. But if they had moved to lemmy.ml (for example), I would have cared enough not to follow and maybe even start my own 196.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't get why people are so angry. I was subscribed to 196 for the Vibes and The memes not because it is on a specific instance. .__.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I will continue to stay subscribed to the other community on lemmy.blahaj.zone as well.

The place the mods said would be taking to "mod only" and thus effectively closed and useless for everyone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Instance admins have total control over the communities on their instance. The admin can appoint themselves or anyone else as a moderator and unlock the community, so there's a chance there will be more posts. If not, that's fine too! I'm subscribed to a fair amount of communities that are no longer active. It doesn't change anything as I scroll through my subscription feed!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Have you considered not trying to forcibly migrate a community from one instance to another (without community consensus), and instead building a community with its own merits?

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 4 months ago

I, for one, welcome this move.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Was there any consultation with the community on this decision?

[+] [email protected] -23 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Why should there have been one?

Moss and the Modteam are the ones for whom instance swap changes the most, and as far as I know, they have been discussing this for a long time.

All "we" as users have to do is press the subscribe button.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Both asked their communities before moving. As respect and politeness towards their members.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Hey don't say everything was perfect the way it went down. A heads up would have been nice for sure! But moss and the modteam did not broke any rules (that I'm aware of) by doing it this way, neither on blahaj.zone nor an lemmy.world.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you look in the other thread you'll see there's a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won't happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.

Additionally there's the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.

Then there's the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don't have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There's clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won't move over here.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago

Nope

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My first reaction was "ew" and after reading into the reasons I still don't agree but I respect it. I'm a bit thrown off by there not having been any discussion of this before if it has been "ongoing for months", though I'm mostly a lurker and maybe I have just missed it.

It honestly looks and feels so wrong but fuck it we ball I guess.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

hmmm

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Why did you migrate?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I just happened to see this sub in local and joined. Glad to be here regardless!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago

Lemmy.world lmao

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (7 children)

See now kids, that's how the real ones like me do ban evasion.

Don't go back to the place. Just wait till the place comes to you.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As a long time community member, I hope .world doesn't defederate from .ml. This instance has always been "reddity". This community has always been one of my favorites. I'd hate to lose it.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Choosing lemmy.world

In 2025

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago

We have decided to move to a new exciting platform named Reddit

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

wait, why not blahaj? I dont get it, it was well moderated there :(

There should have been more communication or a poll or something, lemmy world is not known for its clean moderation :(

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of all the instances you chose .world? Yeah this party is probably dead

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No rule in title? Believe it or not, straight to ban!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hello

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