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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don't care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal "Chinese spy," while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

"This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs," Quintin said. "People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks."

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

We are using it mainly as a massive middle finger to the US government

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

" . . . giving Rednote access to their data as a show of protest . . ."

That's a special kind of stupid.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 6 days ago (16 children)

If you want more people to join the fediverse, you have to improve the user experience. People don’t want to read an article breaking down what the fediverse is, how to join an instance, how to find content, etc.

Streamline the join process so it doesn’t require learning the lore and technical training. Stop promoting the fediverse generally, and instead push people to easy to use frontends and popular instances. Remove the barriers to entry. If they want to dig deeper into different instances and the technical stuff, let them do that later. Stop loading the info dump at the front.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

You get it. Well said.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

instead push people to easy to use frontends and popular instances.

I've seriously thought about starting up a website to do exactly this. The problem is I already have a mile long project list. Oh and I suck at UX lmao, backend and hosting/infrastructure stuffs that's my jam. Putting together a nice UX with a good flow and then successfully promoting it....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Pixelfed’s app release seems like a good start.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"I'm protesting American oligarchs and the surveillance state by willingly giving my personal data to Chinese oligarchs and the surveillance state. Lol, get rekt. I am very smart."

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I know we are all on here because we dislike the kind of algorithms that tik tok, Instagram, and Facebook have, but that is exactly the thing my wife was looking for. When I had her download pixelfed and loops she was like ' I have to search out content and manually follow people like I did with Facebook back in the day?' and she uninstalled.

Algorithms can be addictive and evil, but for some people that's what they're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Okay, well I have impulses to go and get drunk, do hard drugs, and attempt to sleep with random women. None of those things are close to a good idea for me.

Just because you feel drawn to something or a type of thing does not make it healthy or a good idea for that person. Taking desires and expressing them in a healthy way is important, desires dont just disappear.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Somewhere deep in the CCP...

Senior Operative: "What intelligence have we gleaned from the Americans so far?"

Junior Operative: "I'm beginning to think this well is dry."

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 days ago

"They love to virtue signal apparently, not sure how that helps us takeover their country though."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Platforms that work and are easy to use*

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have long since given up on Normies ever coming to the Indie Web, federated or otherwise

Ever since the big Xwitter exodus, when people went to BlueSky when Mastodon was right there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Xitter* (x pronounced sh style)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

idk, pixelfed is doing great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Where were people's protests & complaints when the US government were first proposing the ban?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Everyone assumed that they wouldn't be so stupid as to ban an app used by 170,000,000 Americans.

Now they've proven that yes they are that stupid. That corrupt.

So nah. Not going back to any US based alternative. Ever. TT to Red Book. If they ban Red Book we'll go to VK or Jaco or whatever Vietnam has going on.

Best part? It took all of about 2 hours to completely obliterate 60 years of CIA propaganda. We can see plain how much better they have it than we do. How much better life is there.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

really?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yes. Why? Because pettiness

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago

The tiktok ban was never about China. It was about killing off a dissent medium.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Lemmy is great but it does not hit the spot for a large-scale consumer social network because that's just not the philosophy (It also lacks the unified identity because of its greatest feature: federation)

People are not searching for an aggregator of small forums of friendly tech people, they want to be part of the next big thing.

If you work on apps as a front-end, you probably understand that Lemmy requires too much hassle to get started with UX-wise.

It's engineered for a niche, and it's perfect to me but obscure for the majority of people who were trained to use the same UX for years and years.

No algorithm, no feeling of fame, rarely drama, content takes some time to be updated. Those are features to me but hindrance for large-scale adoption I believe.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Reddit got quite successfull over the years.

I think the potential audience for lemmy is huge, just that people havent gotten the same marketing hype/trend like you pointed out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Reddit userbase absolutely skyrocketed when Obama (then president) did an AMA. The site was never quite the same after that

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

Apparently some Israeli-Americans went on Red Note to specifically asked Chinese people what they thought of Israel, and users basically said they were "Devil's on this earth for killing babies" which like...damn. Even through the Great Firewall they aren't beating the allegations.

So I'm sure the Israeli lobby will get that banned next, we shouldn't worry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

People so stupid

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