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Two very rare Covid vaccine side-effects detected in global study of 99 million (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Results confirm how uncommon known complications are as researchers confirm benefits from vaccines still ‘vastly outweigh the risks’

Two new but exceptionally rare Covid-19 vaccine side effects – a neurological disorder and inflammation of the spinal cord – have been detected by researchers in the largest vaccine safety study to date.

The study of more than 99 million people from Australia, Argentina, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, New Zealand and Scotland also confirmed how rare known vaccine complications are, with researchers confirming that the benefits of Covid-19 vaccines still “vastly outweigh the risks”.

Researchers working as part of the Global Vaccine Data Network used deidentified electronic healthcare data to compare the rates of 13 brain, blood and heart conditions in people after they received the Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca vaccine with the rate that would be expected of those conditions in the population before the pandemic.

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[+] [email protected] -13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I've always been pretty doubtful of the numbers anyone gives. I've a lot of friends over four provinces and a couple northern states, moved around a lot over the last 20 years, employed in trades with a lot of free movement. I'd guess I know 30 people died due to opioids and overdoses, etc, the last 5 or 6 years. I don't know anyone died of covid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My manager at a previous employer died of covid while I worked there. This was long after the initial hectic period.

I personally interacted with hundreds of people who would end up passing away from covid-related complications.

Obviously working in healthcare exposes you to this sort of thing more. Outside of that, I had two direct relatives who nearly died (and likely would have if they had caught it when DME companies had run out of oxygen concentrators to rent out in 2020)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nothing you said is untrue, but none of is is relevant either. You even seem to know that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s relevant because it’s largely regional or circumstantial. The distribution of Covid deaths depends heavily on healthcare system capacity and population density, and when it was bad, it was really bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah too many of these hospitals were closed to the public and pretending to be full while nearly empty. Heart attack deaths disappeared statistically. Just a big pile of BS. Just ask a nurse after a few beer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Definitely not in my neck of the woods, unless they had thousands of crisis actors at every hospital in my area.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm always skeptical of the overdose death numbers. I personally know several people that died from Covid and nobody that's died from opioids.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The fuck does your comment have anything to do with COVID vaccine side-effects?!

Also, "I'm doubtful of the numbers anyone gives" Proceeds to give his numbers

Okay? They're meaningless if we assume everyone has your opinion regarding numbers.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You really need someone to explain why his personal and wide ranging experience across a quarter of a continent involving thousands of people would make him question the numbers, when people he's knows personally vaguely resemble the stats of the one crisis for their regions, and the people he knows personally do not whatsoever resemble the official numbers in another? This wasn't complicated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And if you looked around outside your bubble at all you'd see that Covid has killed more people than the Holocaust. By a significant margin. Including several of my family members. Fuck off with your denialism, millions have died because of attitudes like yours.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The numbers are lies and it's really fucking obvious. I'm sorry about your family members but it doesn't change that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If only the willfully ignorant were the only ones suffering, I wouldn't care about your opinion. You have the right to go die choking on your own phlegm, doesn't bother me. But spreading misinformation kills people. You are killing people. You are a murderer by proxy. I hope with all my heart that you reap the appropriate rewards of that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You might have convinced me a while ago. No one of any intelligence buys this crap anymore

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Study concluded that most people are fucking stupid and you shouldn't listen to them, especially when it comes to assessing risk using statistical methods.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I noticed they didn't explain things to my liking. Like why are they blaming the vaccine and not just side effects of long COVID? I was hoping they would break down the study more instead of just telling me what they think it means.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (4 children)

According to the conspiracy people on LinkedIn hundreds of millions of vaccinated people are already dead. I’ve had like four so I probably only have minutes to live.

Possibly I’m safe due to being in Australia, a country that doesn’t exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I've had 6. I'm speaking to you from the grave. Congratulations, you're a medium.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Are you sure Austria doesn't exist? I've definitely heard of it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I had family members who told me the vaccine was going to kill me and various other stuff they heard from Fox News and similar.

They all caught COVID at a party in 2021 and died. Seriously. It's awful what all this conspiracy crap is doing to people. It costs lives and affects everyone around them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's troubling. The vaccine is obviously a bigger killer than covid ever was. The fact is 100% of all vaccine recipients will die within 1-90 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The kids would like a word with you.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

Your odds of dying while swimming, running, or jogging are about the same (1 in a million). And similar to those activities, the risk exists, but the benefits vastly outweigh the risks so it's kind of irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile I had 4 different types of shots, 3 of them Chinese and no side effects

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wording in that headline, SUCKS.

Leading with "side effects" rather than the size/strength of the study and many readers will just ignore "very rare".

Is this the largest study of its kind? If so, lead with that as well. Outlet is purposefully flirting with this line to get clicks from both the rational and batshit sides of this "argument".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep this is just more fuel for antivax idiots. I'm still waiting to drop dead from the vaccine...as a few of the antivax people I have met tell me I will.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Being the petty person I can be at times, someone on ye olde reddit posted a list of people who "died from the vaccine" and listed... 23 names I think it was? I looked up all the information I could on all 23 and concluded 2 of them I couldn't definitively say what their cause of death was, but not a single one pointed to the vaccine (and a not-insignificant number wouldn't have even had access to the vaccine in their country at the time they supposedly died from it.)

I know it didn't change their mind because hand wave reasons

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yea I've literally had old coworkers who are good people, state stupid shit like this, saying how they know 5 or 6 people who personally died from the vaccine. It's insane how disconnected these people are sometimes.

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