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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] tomatol@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Thanks for this post. Any alternatives for Drive specifically?? Including self-hosted options

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Immich if you want really good photo backup. Nextcloud if you want a full Drive replacement

syncthing if you just want to keep a few folders in sync between devices.

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[–] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If a car company in Germany complemented Hitler on his paintings, would it be still fine to buy their cars? And what if they were a really great car company and only mentioned how cool Hitler's paintings were and nothing else?

I sort of feel like if I am cool with Proton's statement, then I also am cool with trans people and Latino people and Gazan people being treated poorly, and I'm not actually cool with that.

It's unfortunate, because despite Proton not accepting XMR and logging IPs when they promised they wouldn't and doing other questionable practices, they have a lot of great services. But now, it's like if I'm using their services, I'm sort of spitting on the grave of every trans person who ended their life out of shame, spitting on the grave of every dead Gazan who simply didn't want to die, and being disrespectful to all the cool Latinos out there who have been degraded simply out of racism.

:-(

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unlike a car which is bought once and is mostly outside of vendor control once you have it, Proton mail is a service that requires continuous trust in the company since they offer a service. This means I no longer trust Proton as much, which makes me much less inclined to use their services.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 57 points 4 months ago (17 children)

I own and operate https://port87.com/, and in no way am I even close to right wing. I don’t call myself a liberal, and get offended when people do, because I’m a leftist.

It’s not ready for business email yet, but it’ll work for your personal email.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is cool but tbh having numbers in the domain makes it feel kinda sketchy especially for a business email, also i already wouldn’t use proton for business due to the worry of getting caught by spam filters so it would be much more difficult to use this, especially since its hard to know if you’ll be able to sustain the business for 5/10/15 years.

Im glad youre working on it though and ill keep an eye out on your progress!

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 10 points 4 months ago

Damn it my two year subscription just got refreshed...

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