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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm currently on Tuta, because I can't imagine Mail without a free tier. It's run out of Germany(EU). Its 3€ a month for the normal tier, free takes away most features. Like Proton, you need to use their (OSS)-Client, for encryption reasons. It's currently growing and I hope they don't go crazy anytime soon.

I was looking at Posteo, but I don't want my entire internet identity to be gone, if I ever can't pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (17 children)

So literally one guy can change your entire network lifestyle?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Thank fuck I didn't get that subscription, I was looking into getting a secure mail service. I engaged with people calling proton a CIA honeypot, investigating what was up with the rumors and I was about to jump into bed with proton.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Just looking for a free alternative..

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've said it in another thread: German users should consider posteo as a green, safe, and affordable (1€/M) alternative. https://posteo.de/de

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Never used it. Is there a reason why you mention German users, in specific?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

It's not limited to German users, but those might be especially inclined since it's a Berlin-based company πŸ™‚

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

No, anyone can use it, payed plans only though (1€ p month min)

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Remember when businesses stayed the fuck out of politics so they didn't alienate their customers because they like money? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Does DisRoot count ? It has a myriad of services that are all FOSS tools Has a "Hub-App" on Fdroid

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I swear by Njalla, which is run by Peter Sunde

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It seems there aren't any exact replacements, but this probably lists service providers to consider: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yo so question for y'alls: what's your opinion on using custom domain (for portability) vs masked emails?

Rn I have my main emails on my personal domain, and then I have masked emails going through [email protected] for more anonymity + segmenting (err i mean just being able to disable a certain address individually) . But watching all this reminded me that if I decided to move away from fastmail, i'm much more locked-in this way. Do y'alls use a custom domain for masked email as well? The one thing I don't like about that is that it'd be so easy to connect multiple accounts based on domain, so anonymity is probably kinda broken.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I use a custom domain for basically all emails since I care more about portability than anonymity. Each account gets its own address, and if a site gets hacked and I start getting spam then I know which one it was. If I really wanted anonymity for something then I would use a randomly generated masked email.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago

Trump's terrible politics aside:

  1. the Republican party is pushing legislation which requires you to identify yourself to view porn

  2. you can get around this with a VPN

  3. proton is a VPN (nonprofit, but still).

I'll be switching email providers when I can... I can't remember when my subscription ends.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago

Abandoning the Proton subscription now. How stupid and irresponsible. In fact, are running away from all your principles.

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