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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here πŸ”πŸ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

disroot

depending on your politics, autistici

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (4 children)

"Proton? Why the fuck would he be mad at a WINE fork...?"
"... OH THE MAIL-"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Nextcloud is an amazing alternative to things like google suite or Office365. You can.self-host it or rent space on a server with nextcloud preinstalled. It integrates things like file storage, online office, podcast, rss feed reader, photo albums, etc. There's litteraly hundreds of apps that can easily be installed. I was a big user of the G suite, made the change last year and couldn't be happier. It's much more powerful than I was expecting and no evil gafam get access to my data.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I've been using Runbox for many years and it's weird i don't see recommendations.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Currently exploring my options, thinking of switching to Tuta. It sucks because I literally just paid for a Proton annual plan, looking if I can cancel it and get (part of) my money back...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I've been using Posteo for email since 2020. Love it. Mullvad for VPN.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they think Dollar Store Hitler is going to stand up for small businesses then they're about to have a rude awakening.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Been super happy with NordVPN for years.

People will complain about them advertising on YouTube. Why would I care about that? Companies advertise.

People will complain about them not having port forwarding. This doesn't matter for the majority of VPN users. If it does, use a different one.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Server locations: Riseup is in the US (Washington state), so keep that in mind. Disroot is in the Netherlands (part of the EU).

Governance: Riseup: Look at their β€œabout us” page. Disroot: Look at their β€œabout” page. The terms of service are more detailed. tl;dr: As far as I can tell, these are run by leftists.

Integrity/Transparency: I have no idea how to grade this.

Ease of Use: Subjective. Riseup VPN is just: install the client, turn it on or off. Disroot is much better with a mail client of some kind, so if you already use one, it’s probably a 10, otherwise, the webmail server isn’t that great. Disroot also requries manual encryption (I’m biased here because I use Kmail which makes PGP really easy to use).

Pricing and Links: Free https://riseup.net/en/vpn https://disroot.org/en/services/email

tl;dr: Use collective-run services, not corporate-run services

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