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New York starts enforcing $15 broadband law that ISPs tried to kill - Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Low-income plans

Love to means-test fucking everything. You can't just have $15/mo internet. You have to plead poverty for fear of middle class or (god forbid) rich people getting a basic utility at a sensible price.

Nevermind how means testing inevitably creates these legal hurdles for administrators to leap over. The act of means testing is inevitably what businesses target in an effort to avoid compliance. "Oh! It's too hard to tell who qualifies! Undo burden! Undo burden!" It wouldn't be a burden if the ISP was limited to a universal flat rate. It wouldn't be a burden if municipalities owned and operated their own independent flat-rate internet service as a public utility.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

The funniest (or saddest?) part of all this is that $15 is considered "low". It's still pretty high for something so vital (and tbf I'd much rather see a requirement for like 5-10 Mbps at $5 or so; you don't need much bandwidth for meaningful, very useful service).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's crazy how many people equate Mbps latency. Broadband companies spread this lie that faster is better.

You can game lag free and have VoIP calls with zero interruption on 5Mbps.

Only thing more Mbps helps with is downloading larger files faster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

You can game lag free and have VoIP calls with zero interruption on 5Mbps.

Yeah on like... 2-4 devices total lol.

What if I want to play MariokartDS online with 8 of my friends on the same connection?

My WEP router advertises 11 Mbps WiFi, I want to use the whole thing.

^/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Also helps with streaming and many, many other services

Having said that, though, yeah... 99% of the population doesn't need more than 10Mbit / person

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

I understand the argument but there is far less issues and costs associated with fibre connections which are virtually limitless in terms of speed - theoretical limits apply butbwe are still seeing new equipment at either ends that allow for multiple tbps speeds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Making the connection slower doesn’t magically make it cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Lol Internet Essentials is $10 for 50Mbps (if you qualify, that is)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

1 Mbit/s should be free.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago

I not disagreeing but $15 would still put it at one of the cheapest if not the cheapest vital service. I’m not sure you could get any other utility for much lower than that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago

I wish California would implement this law as well.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The blue states always have the cool stuff!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

Something something freedom something? *

* Offer not valid in all 50 states, void where prohibited

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Wish I hadn't built my life in the red hellhole

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Sunk cost fallacy... It might be worth moving in the long run. It's far from perfect, but I know that the difference between living in a solid blue state, vs a purple state, is huge. I can't even imagine coming from a deep red state. Shit would be like entering the Promised Land.

Which is sad, because blue states have their fair share of issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

What about me? When I was born Ohio is what we'd now call blue. I say it that way because when I was born, states didn't have colors. In fact in 1980 when reagan won, the map he won was blue. Today that wouldn't make sense, so you get my point.

By the time I was a teenager Ohio had become a swing state.

And now it's red.

Where the fuck is my blue ohio I was brought up in???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I used to live in Alberta and I’m still reeling from that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Bret Hart still running around up there complaing about goldberg?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

He's still bitter about the Montreal Screwjob

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

And red states are welfare states with crabs in a bucket mentality

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

“Oh, yeah? Well at least we passed laws requiring us to identity ourselves if we wanna use porn, lol! You can keep your cheap broadband internet! Ha!” — Red States

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Why would you need broadband internet if it isn't for porn in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

"We can't afford rent, bread and Internet, what happened, fuck socialism I guess???"

  • standard American who voted for the billionaire party