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Fuck Windows AND MacOS honestly

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This was kind of justified for the RAM.

Packaging LPDDR smartphone-style like Apple does makes the traces much shorter, which lets the RAM be faster and lower power. DDR5-5600 DIMMs in "regular" laptops are literally electrically maxed out, and power hogs because they run at crazy voltages for the speed. I would think that much voltage would degrade the CPU too.

Fortunately LPCAMMS solve this!

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21069/modular-lpddr-becomes-a-reality-samsung-introduces-lpcamm-memory-modules

And Apple is totally going to use them since they have no technical excuse anymore... right?

RIGHT!?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The M4 Pro memory is quad channel, so I assume 256 bit.

The two LPCAMMS required for this would require a lot more space.

I give them a pass on memory packaging (but not pricing). SSDs are indefensible though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Still, they’re about the size of SODIMMs and relatively flat.

It would be iffy for the Max I suppose.

Yeah, I don’t even know what the ostensible excuse is for their SSDs. Keeping the laptop knife thin, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

There’s not much room in the Mac Mini for additional LPCAMM modules, or the MacBook Air.

The SSDs Apple use lack a controller (that’s built into the M series SoC). That drives down Apple’s cost of materials but surely it wouldn’t be that hard to support a standard NVMe M.2 interface?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

There's also CUDIMM which one manufacturer is tauting that they'll be releasing a 10000 MT/s soon after having dropped a 9000 model a couple months ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve owned computers since the 286 was a big deal.

I’ve NEVER had an SSD ”die”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Lucky you

I've gone through two NVMe drives these past few years.

Both just started fucking up and crashing my whole OS with them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

« My experience as an individual is valid for everyone »

It’s like saying I have lived in my house for 40 years and I have never had a fire.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I had one die in my home server. Hadn't gotten around to any backups or redundancy yet because it was "just" for configs and metadata for media apps. Took me like 5-10 hours to rebuild the config though which was annoying. Would take me much longer now if it happened again. I no longer have that SSD as a single point of failure in my system.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still better than Windows, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only thing that makes Apple marginally better is that the company spying on you tries to pretend like they're not in it for your sweet data.

They might not be selling it right now, but only because they keep making money hand over fist from the non-repairable proprietary bullshit they produce. Once that faucet starts to slow down, you better believe they'll be the next Google.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They're both about the same in terms of privacy so that's quite an irrelevant thing to bring up. Windows sucks infinitely more from an usability perspective, though.

Edit: Oh, one more thing, you don't have to do some bs hacks to use macOS without an Apple account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They’re both about the same in terms of privacy so that’s quite an irrelevant thing to bring up. Windows sucks infinitely more from an usability perspective, though.

As someone who has used Linux as their primary desktop OS for about 7 years now, you don't have to tell me that Windows sucks.

Edit: Oh, one more thing, you don’t have to do some bs hacks to use macOS without an Apple account.

I don't use any accounts for my OS at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

What modern os can be used without any accounts? TempleOS?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

you don't have to tell me that Windows sucks.

Then I don't see why you have a problem with me saying macOS is better than Windows.

I don't use any accounts for my OS at all.

You mean Linux? I don't either but that's irrelevant, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly my M2 MacBook Pro feels like it’s built to last. I paid a lot, but I feel like I’ve gotten great value out of it and genuinely enjoy using it. And it’s still going strong.

But we have to talk about Apple’s hostility towards developers. It’s like they want to make devs miserable. That’s the part that’s unforgivable imo.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly my M2 MacBook Pro feels like it’s built to last. I paid a lot, but I feel like I’ve gotten great value out of it and genuinely enjoy using it. And it’s still going strong.

yeah until you want to upgrade or repair something, then it's fuck you buy another one. I get the apple premium, what I don't get is the scorn they show for people who have purchased their overpriced hardware when they want to upgrade it. that's just insulting - you gotta buy it with everything maxed out on APPLE ram, ssds etc.,

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple making a proprietary pinout for NVME is what will keep me from ever giving them money.

https://assistenciaapplebrasilia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Apple-Propietary-SSD.png

It's not like Apple uses a different controller, or that they invented a different communication standard. They just put the same communication pins from the same controller on a different physical connector, and charge you 10x for the replacement part. It's why boards like this can work at all:

https://bartechtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/nvme2016macbookPRO-1-678x381.jpg

If Apple wasn't using standard NVMe controller communication protocols and controllers, these adapter boards wouldn't work at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

yup. disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I architected and built a cloud based apple build system for a megacorp, what an anti consumer POS company. I hate apple with a passion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you prefer windows for servers then?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Linux, not sure why that's relevant though. At least even Windows can be made elastic and it isn't expensive for the sake of being expensive because Apple. So yeah, I guess I'd prefer to run Windows servers than ever run Mac for anything.

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