linuxmemes

Yeah no it does suck it made me think the Linux experience was at least 3x worse before I tried another distro.

And not just a DE thing, every part of the distro feels like it was slapped on without actually thinking of the consequences.

• netplan
• apt
• default systemd dependencies
• ubuntu GNOME
• snap
• ubuntu pro
• cloudinit conf

You can find forums and docs from as old as Fedora 11 that's still relevant yet Ubuntu utterly fails to keep consistency across a single version update because they changed something that's only mentioned in the changelog.

Every downstream of Ubuntu is essentially focused on removing all the BS the upstream has so you can use your computer without something breaking like it's ~~Arch~~ an overused meme about Arch.

There is no right answer to the correct distro, only a wrong answer, and that is Ubuntu because practically anything else including its downstreams like LM are better for you as a user.

I get the annoyance around tribalism/elitism, some people in other posts pointed out the fact that silly dramas and bad/dumb linux takes scares out new users but tbh I feel more confortable with a vocal community, even a silly one. Feels healthier and more alive to me than a mute and apathetic one.

If something goes wrong, if something displeases someone we will hear about it, people will get angry, at the worst we get a nice entertainment to watch and a good laugh, at the very best it leads us to some nice changes.

It's something I grew to like about Linux, even the silliness of it all, even how you can't really tell if people are dead serious or not about the stupidest things.

there's just no reason to start using it when mint exists

Q: what does apt install firefox do? Surely it uses apt to install Firefox, right???? A: The command gets highjacked by snap, which promptly crashed and hangs.

Ran into this just a few hours ago, made the mistake of suggesting Ubuntu as a sane default (instead of debian or something else), never making that mistake again hopefully.

I use (K?)Ubuntu (I installed KDE on Ubuntu so now it thinks it's Kubuntu? Weird) and I don't get the hate. I worked with raspberry pis and such on Linux for a bit so when I got a new computer, I decided to main Linux on desktop as well, since I felt confident enough in it and I went with Ubuntu as I felt it was an obvious choice.

I heard of Linux Mint, but I hate mints and didn't want to live with a distro named after them.

Only regret is that I didn't fresh install Kubuntu as I have some gnome ghouls left behind, but eh, if I really wanted to I think I can get rid of them. Just don't want to risk deleting other preinstalled stuff.

All operating system elitism is stupid. Just use what you like and are comfortable using. I grew up on Linux and mostly use Mac nowadays.

It's even sillier to make fun of someone for the distro they use.

When you're a boring person and the only thing you have to be snobby about is your operating system I'm not sure that says anything good about you.

You either use the distro for its specific use case and suffer as you overreach into other areas of expertise or get comfy switching gears if you need hybrid tasks on minimal hardware

idk, I've been using xubuntu for more than 10 years now, I'm not happy with absolutely everything, but the trouble I do have is definitely less effort to fix than learning a new, more elaborate distro.

So, it's a pretty good, common denominator, and as long as it keeps working it doesn't really need to be anything else?

I'm sure there are differences and niches that other distros fulfill better, but until there is a killer feature I'm interested in that only works on a specific distro or works extremely well on a different distro, I don't see the "push" factor that would make me leave?

(btw, that there is no "report bugs here" button that's just built into the window manager (besides the -,+,x buttons) and takes me to project home pages or bug trackes is wild to me, on any distro as far as I know. Like they don't want to interact with users? I don't get it.)