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I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Honestly, if I weren't politically as far left as I am, lemmy would have scared me off a long time ago.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish that lemmy had the population to sustain more niche communities.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

You're talking about people that are content with "the internet" being google, facebook, instagram, snap, tiktok, youtube and twitter, nothing more.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

That behavior is not up to the standard known as "average".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

People follow celebrities accounts like good sheeps. Let them stay there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

In other words: Advertising works.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I guess most people don’t want to wade through dozens of “eat the rich” posts every time thay open their favorite social media platform.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, people get overwhelmed by choosing a server instance.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Weird. That’s like my main kink.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

billionaire ran

Billionaire-run

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hopefully they meant "ran to the ground"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

As a non tech expert, in my view, the biggest concern for the fediverse to grow, presently, is how difficult it can be to sign up.

Go to a instance listing, try and choose one, signup... all of this should be acessible but mostly invisible for the average user. The user should only be questioned what sort of content they mostly intend to browse, have a NSFW explicit option, perhaps a server location preference, and that should be it.

Beneath the hood, this process should trigger a call to the network requesting a user slot for any server that could cater to that generic profile the prospect user filled. Even bans should be handled differently, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

What do you think about this?

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

https://reddit.com/comments/1hzpnyo/comment/m6ttieg

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

https://sopuli.xyz/ if you’re European

Out of curiosity, how come you don't recommend your own instance, feddit.org?

I think the main concern new users have are "Can I see everything across Lemmy, or will I be getting a fragmented experience?". This was my initial concern and I've seen Redditors also voice this concern. People don't know if being on an instance means you can only be isolated to that instance, which would mean missing out on wider content, or whether you see everything (at which point you might ask what is the point of the instances then?).

By presenting people with "here's an instance if you're American, here's another if you're European" might support the idea that people will get differenct experiences based on their location. They might ask: "Do Americans see different content to Europeans? What's the difference? Maybe the American instance will have more users so I'll pick that instead."

In reality it doesn't matter, you can sign up to an instance and subscribe to 0 communities on your own instance, but people don't know this if they don't know anything about it. I do wonder whether instances should be scored by a few factors and recommended that way?

  • How many instances they've defederated from - the bigger the number the more it negatively affects the score
  • How many admins it has - instances with 1 admin should not be recommended at all
  • Availability - probably don't want to recommend instances with poor uptime
  • Theme - more general purpose instances would score higher, while instances with a specific focus would score lower

It would be good if the join-lemmy site could randomly create you an account on one of the instances that qualify. Take that cognitive load away from the user and make that choice for them - and make it clear that they're free to sign up to any instance they want.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

So am I on my alt. Great instance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine to go over all that... To end up on .ml

You're 100% on point. From first attempt to getting my final account it took me a few weeks. Had an instance close down days after joining, another blocking communities I was interested, sign up denied...

In fucking reddit you don't even need a real email

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I only used my email for safety purpose; I tend to forget passwords.

Again, as someone with very low technical skills, I think things could be tweaked to increase traction. Even funding.

I'm not even adverse to see advertisement on the Fediverse, as long as those trying to advertise here keep in mind they want to reach the user base here, not the other way around. To this, it would imply low impact, discreet and highly curated advertisement.

Instances closing down don't shock me. People have other things to do: real life should take precedence over social media. I like to be here but when my smartphone broke and I was back on a Nokia brick, I didn't missed it.

An instance shutting down should automatically request to the network transfer of its subscribed users. Again, something the users should be aware of but completely invisible to them.

And even bans should work like that. A user may become persona non grata but they still should be capable of accessing the rest of the network or, at least, request transfer. Hard bans, in my view, only create malice and the creation of other accounts, that will just eat the capability of the instance to receive new users.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Another contributing factor is that Lemmy & Mastodon "care about privacy". Odd, in my opinion, for a public social network.

Their interpretation of that is that they don't send referer headers. So to any site receiving Lemmy traffic, we're invisible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure that it's the browser which is sending referrer headers, not the individual sites. That being said, even if a provider were looking at the refer headers in their analytics to determine where people were coming from, it would not show one url, but hundreds for all the different instances there are. This would cause Lemmy to be under represented in analytics, even if in aggregate it's the largest source of traffic.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's unfortunate, but there's a real chicken-and-egg problem here. Those of us who are on here are here because of how strongly we believe in the ideal of it, but for the average person who just cares about talking about their favourite interests, there's a serious lack.

I'll use two examples, one that you clearly care about, and one that I do. /r/stopkillinggames is hardly super active, but in the last 3 weeks it's had 11 posts with a cumulative 68 comments. [email protected], by contrast, has had just 8 posts, all by a mod, with just 6 total comments. /r/AgeofMythology is very active with artistic appreciation posts, balance discussion, and advice just within the last 24 hours. [email protected] has failed to attract a single post from anyone other than myself, and it's been over 3 months since anyone other than myself has left a comment. It's disheartening, not being able to have conversations about the stuff you love, when you know that just over there it would be so easy.

Lemmy's excellent if you want to talk about politics, or open source, but there's not a huge amount outside of that. The Star Trek communities are pretty good, but they pale in comparison to a great sub like /r/daystrominstitute, and the amount and depth of discussion on ttrpg.network is slim compared to /r/pathfinder2e, /r/dndgreentext, /r/dndnext, etc. And these are some of the best-supported hobbies on Lemmy.

So as much as I'm staying here and trying to do my part to make it better, and frequently encourage others to join...I also can't really blame people who don't.

(I feel less charitably towards people on Twitter. Because that place is a total shithole, and Mastodon is surprisingly good, if you like microblogging platforms. Plus even Bluesky is better than staying on Twitter, and it has most of the celebrities and micro-celebrities some people might want to follow.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

To add to Blaze's point: as lemmy's still small, there's not much point to super specialized communities when the more general ones are "slow" enough that pretty much any post you make can remain "newest" for 2 days straight.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s disheartening, not being able to have conversations about the stuff you love, when you know that just over there it would be so easy.

Have you tried more generic gaming communities? [email protected] is quite active, I'm sure a regular thread about AoM there would definitely get some traction (or even just a one-time promotion thread)

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