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Comcast says it represents a 10 Gigabit cable internet network they are building (it doesn’t exist) so they are basically changing the meaning of the g from generation to gig to act like 10g is 5 generations better (or twice as fast)…or that they have a 10 gigabit network. Neither is accurate. It’s still just cable internet that people have to use because they have no other option.

Fuck Comcast.

I read online they are abandoning the “confusing” 10g branding but I just saw a commercial for it. They think all of their customers are morons and count on folks having no other choices in a lot of cases.

Apologies to anyone outside the United States, this is just complaining about our poor internet options and deceptive advertising by greedy corporations.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Imagine not calling your 10 Gig network Mr Gigs.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Because of all the bullshit with subsidies etc. intended for improving broadband infrastructure being abused, my dream is:

  • All the poles & lines (and access rights to them) are nationalized and then opened up for individual ISPs to service. Current ISP exclusivity contracts/agreements should be dissolved. Let them actually compete for customers with price, features and customer service.
  • The government should also offer tax-funded baseline connectivity to everyone since it's effectively impossible to live in modern society without internet access. The provided speeds must be sufficient for a typical bloated framework-script-heavy site, all (meta)data/packets should be considered constitutionally protected private info not able to be monitored/scraped/sold.
  • Use building out and supporting the above as a useful jobs program instead of more military adjacent stuff.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You have my vote if you run for office.

I’ve heard in other countries they have a CHOICE of electricity providers. Boggles my mind. CHOOSE who you buy electricity from? Like more than 1?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am so, so, SO glad I'm now in a home with access to fiber Internet. Real, 2 gigabit symmetric fiber.

The cable company keeps sending me glossy ads in the mail - several per week - trying to get me to go back to 1/4 the bandwidth at the same price. Uhhhh... no.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Same here. Before fiber came to my suburb I could only choose AT&T or Comcast. AT&T’s fastest plan was 50mbps and never pulled more than 30. They’ve had permits here to put up Verizon 5G towers for 5 years but haven’t built a single one because of the tin foil hat brigade. I would love to switch to Verizon because I’d save a shitload on bundling it with my cell phones. Verizon has LTE but that would be like going back to the DSL.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ars reported on this at the end of January.

Comcast reluctantly agrees to stop its misleading “10G Network” claims. Comcast said it will drop "Xfinity 10G Network" brand name after losing appeal.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/01/comcast-to-stop-calling-entire-network-10g-as-name-is-ruled-misleading/

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They say that but are running the ads this very night during college basketball games…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it’s still confusing. It could be that since the ruling was made less than a month ago, there are active ad campaigns that they’re just going to let run their course, rather than cancel them.

But also, note the following from the source article:

Comcast said it may still use 10G in ways that are less likely to confuse consumers. "Consistent with the panel's recommendation... Comcast reserves the right to use the term '10G' or 'Xfinity 10G' in a manner that does not misleadingly describe the Xfinity network itself," the company said.

When contacted by Ars, a Comcast spokesperson said, "We disagree with the decision but are pleased that we have confirmed our continued use of 10G in advertising."

So maybe Ars overstepped in their headline?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Comcast can't even do symmetric speeds. I'm not sure what locations have thier best speeds but in my area, where they compete with the much more affordable but not as large coverage area offerings of fiber. The idea that they could offer even a signle gigabit level service to the majority of their customers is laughable.

I bet it did lead to a lot of confusion especially when you called up for 10GIGABITS and got offered plans in the Megabits with usage limits and overage fees and all kinds of complicated shit. I called in to cancel my service a few months back when i moved to an area with fiber again, they said "we offer gigabit too you know" and i was like , nah you kinda don't actually, but even if you did its like 3 times as expensive for just the download speeds.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In Canada we have (had?) a telecom company come up with Fibe Internet, to mimic Fibre Internet.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure they're getting sued on 10g.

But 5g is bullshit too.

The telecoms agreed what threshold of improvement warranted a "new g" but they sell more funa when the number goes up.

So they started making up sub versions of 4g and then all agreed to have 5g before meeting the threshold for it.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Screen manufacturers just did a similar thing with the jump from 1080p to 4k

The 1080 part of the original number referred to the number of pixels from top to bottom, 4k refers to left to right. 4k is actually only 2160 from top to bottom though (at the same aspect ratio).

So they quadrupled the number when it should have only doubled, and it was entirely a marketing thing.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't even get me started on the bullshit that is calling 1440p 2k

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (9 children)

But at least 4k is indeed 4 times bigger than 1080p, at least in terms of pixels, so it's not all bullshit in a way

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (9 children)

There are 4x the pixels so.....

I don't disagree with the change either. Having a large number makes it more difficult to compare. After 2160 it's 4320. 2k, 4k, and 8k are far easier to remember and figure out the differences.

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