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Pope criticised for saying Ukraine should ‘raise white flag’ and end war with Russia
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Mar 2024
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Just because Russia has a larger population doesn't mean they can use it how they want. Ukrainians want to fight and defend their home and families, there's nothing like that in the Russian military.
The US could commit some forces to Ukraine without weakening their ability to defend Taiwan.
I agree that's the big picture though. Those authoritarian governments, with some support from BRICS and other dictatorships like Venezuela, are challenging the US-Euro hegemony.
They’ve been doing it for years how they want. Putin doesn’t like when people disagree. I’ve never seen so many people accidentally fall out of windows.
Until you see units refusing to go to war, my point stands.
There have been many people refusing to fight for the Kremlin. They have a blocking line that kills their soldiers if they turn around... that's their level or morale.
That is Russia being Russia. They did that in ww2.
Not sure how “historical” everything is but they showed that in enemy at the gates. That really was a shocking scene.
Yeah, I feel bad for the young men forced into the trenches.
We learned from WWII that appeasement doesn't work, and that democracies need to stand together to defend our freedom.
We also learned in ww2 that most countries are not thankful for us helping them in their wars. We have a large ocean between us and everyone else. I’m fine letting Europe solve European problems.
WWII propelled the US to it's current position as the only real superpower. The US benefited tremendously in some critical ways.
Also, the bigger of the oceans between the countries didn't stop Japan from destroying a huge portion of the US Navy. If they weren't proactive in responding, it could have been much, much worse. Japan could have solidified it's initial gains and used the territory and resources to grow even stronger, and the Nazis weren't far from having the bomb.
Isolationism is a nice ideal in some ways, but it's not viable anymore.
The Nazis were far from having the bomb. They talk about this in Oppenheimer.
If they only had to focus on the Easter front they would have had more resources and way more time. If the US sat on its hands it would only be a matter of time until they faced a much stronger Germany armed with nukes.
Well maybe the bunny is why they lost the Easter front?
Germany would have take. 10-20 years to have developed the bomb.
And then they would have nuked the US in the 60s 👍🏼
If you’re curious what their plane was. It was th America bomber and the v4. Their plan was to bomb us to submission.
Russia was literally forcing poorly equipped and even more poorly trained prisoners to rush at the enemy and absorb bullets.
As for units refusing to fight, we have seen second line Russians mowing down front line Russians trying to escape the battlefield. There have also been recent reports of Russian pilots sabotaging their own aircraft to keep themselves from flying dangerous missions. Of course there were also the Wagner troops that started marching on Moscow.
Why are you starting from an assumption that soldiers are somehow oblivious to the tragedies of war?
If your such a peacenic, then you should not be rewarding attempts at territorial acquisition by warfare. Every death in this mess can be laid at the feet of Putin and his supporters.
Then you should have known better. The fact that you had that experience and still made that ignorant statement is worse, not better.