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As fascism is rising in parts of the world, I have begun to wonder how China considers socialists/communists from other countries, as a contingency plan if all else fails.

Communism is barely within the overton window in many western capitalist countries, this can change in the future.

I am from a northern european country, so the country is a social democracy, but slowly becoming more right leaning and economically libertarian.

Edit:I highly doubt I would have any reason to move in the future, but I am kinda curious by nature. I also have it really comfortable, and do not fear any political prosecution.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

i don't think they care about western communists, nor should they considering the amount of chauvinist communists parties out there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

But is a communist from the west moving to China considered to be someone with a negative or harmful political view? Or is it more in line with the general political view in the country, making a transition easier?

What do you mean about chauvinist communist parties? As in critical of China?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think that if you are a foreigner living in China they probably don't want you involving yourself in their politics. Regardless what your politics are. It's none of your business, it's theirs. This also is part of the "non-interventionist" mentality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if you gain citizenship, pay taxes, contribute and live there for many years? Then it's not just their business, then it's also my business?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Obviously if you have citizenship that's different. Citizens have full rights. But afaik it can be very difficult to become a Chinese citizen other than through marriage, birth or descent. I'm not an expert on this subject though. You can check this out if you're interested in the topic: https://lawyerschina.net/chinese-citizenship/

But if you are not a citizen i'm afraid you won't really have political participation rights (voting, becoming a party member, holding government office, etc.), even if you have permanent residency, which btw is itself already not easy to get: https://ikkyinchina.com/2025/04/08/china-immigration-policies-permanent-residence/

Edit: Hong Kong is a notable exception, as the right to vote there is only contingent on permanent residency status.

China is not unique in this, there are countries that grant non-citizen suffrage to various degrees but also countries that don't: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-citizen_suffrage

It's quite unfortunate because imo your political participation rights should not be based on citizenship but on residency. Emigrants being allowed to vote in their country of origins' elections even when they don't and haven't lived there for years is a very bad thing if you ask me, it causes a lot of problems. Elections in Moldova and Romania for example are severely fucked because of diaspora voting.

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