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Hasan debates BadEmpanada (www.youtube.com)
submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

It's part of Noah Samsen's 3-day marathon stream fundraising for UNRWA.

Noah is moderating the debate. Noah's title was HASAN VS BADEMPANADA DEBATE! for like 20 minutes before he changed it to HASANABI BADEMPANADA RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION

To watch from the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB9hN4963xM&t=1s

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (17 children)

My money is on the trot, lol hasan is calling him edgy leftbook (he is)

now the are talking about who did 9/11

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (16 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (15 children)

its my theory, he doesnt like modern china, he doesnt like maoist movements, he has his criticisms of the USSR, he has a positive view of the trots in argentina, also has a positive view of cuba

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Is it trot to believe in Cuba as a bastion of socialism in the “west”?

Edit: Genuine question, asking in good faith here

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even most socdems in europe are sympathetic to cuba. The fierce hatred is an uniquely American phenomenon.

Cuba supporting in itself means little to less in deciding if one is ML.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

This lines up with my thinking. Thank you for clarifying!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well ok, let me rephrase: Is support of Cuba not an ML position?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

I think here it is more a determinant of trot vs Leftcom. Trots are generally supportive if critical, Leftcoms say Cuba's armchair production maintains the commodity form.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

you are missing the part where he is not an ML as showed by his opinion on china, the USSR and the maoist movements,

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure MLs can be anti China and anti maoism, we had like a couple of decades where that was the standard take.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yea like parenti, but he is also critical of the USSR so he couldnt be an ML

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think a lot of MLs are critical of a lot of aspects of the USSR these days. Especially the Khrushchev era gets a lot of criticism.

I'm not arguing he isn't a trot BTW, I am a strong believer that all communists who have a twitter account are functionally trots.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I am not arguing BE’s position, I don’t particularly care. I’m more asking for my own count if there are reasons to be critical of Cuba as an AES project (moreso than others), and how that would tie into being a Trot position etc.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Many ML branches have criticisms of Cuba from maoists, denguists, etc

Its more about the support of Cuba which for example is something Leftcoms dont do, or a few anarchists

There are a few trot branches (castroists, marcyists) who support cuba even if its an ML state, the argentina trots for example do support cuba

So that why i think he may be a trot because while the first few position may look like a leftcom, the cuba one makes it more likely that he is a trot

Edit: also he is not an anarchist because he makes fun of them, and also not a demsoc because he criticises peronism and chavism a few times

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I see! Thank you for your patience in responding <3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Thank you for asking! I had the same questions and appreciated the discussion

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