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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I understand the reasons why people aren't vegan. I also understand the reason why slaughterhouse workers have far higher rates of violence (domestic and non-domestic). I understand why people do terrible things, people aren't born evil. Even Nazis weren't born with some disposition to be evil. It's not like literally millions of Germans just had some natural predisposition to be unbelievably evil and that went away once they lost WW2.

These are learned behaviors. I understand the reasons. They're still not an excuse. You're failing to do what you need to do, and just because I understand why you're failing doesn't mean you're not failing.

Maybe you don't care, maybe you like animal abuse, maybe you know you're doing something wrong and see yourself as a failure. No matter your own views, the mass torture/genocide is still happening, and you're supporting it. Hopefully one day you grow enough as a person to stop.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This comment is straight up vegan propaganda.

If you want to make arguments, do it. But leave emotion at the curb.

This comment makes me want to eat MORE meat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've talked to literal fascists on the Internet who said the same thing, that my arguing with them "made them look into it" and they ended up "hating trans/Jews/Muslims more".

Just because you have an inability to correctly process information doesn't make it my fault you're going to continue being a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

another comparison between eating meat and Nazis. is this Godwin's alt account?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the mass torture/genocide is still happening,

animal agriculture is not torture or genocide

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is torture there's no argument there. Genocide is always a weird one, people argue that what's happening to Palestinians isn't genocide etc.

There are definitions of genocide that it fits, and there are ones that it won't. If you think systemic mass killing for pleasure doesn't fall under the definition of genocide, cool. It's still systemic mass killing for pleasure.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

it's not killing for pleasure, it's killing for food.