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[–] [email protected] 131 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Wow did not realise that three of our states don't have a minimum working age - NSW, Tasmania and South Australia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone who grew up in NSW it's 14 and 9 months. Exceptions might exist for family businesses etc. but your 8-year-old can't apply for a job at Woolies.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Wait is this an Australian news story? I just assumed it was about somewhere here in the US

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If it weren't for the comment, I would haven't just not noticed. I assumed the same. That's fucked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Nope, this is indeed from Australia. I assumed it would've been the US too tbh. But you can tell because our ABC (capitalised) has a different logo to your abc (lower case), and the domain ends in .au (the internet country code for Australia)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh we've been doing this shit too don't worry

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is it similar to Texas but with kangaroos?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Or is Texas similar to Australia but with guns?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Same. On second glance, though, the site in the tweet is a .net.au.

Not a guarantee, but certainly ups the odds.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

Wait is this an Australian news story? I just assumed it was about somewhere here in the US

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not as fucked up as it sounds. Federally, the minimum working age is 16 and parents are legally required to keep their kids in school until they're 16. Most Aussies believe you need to be 14 and 9 months to get a job (beyond the family business), as that was an older minimum schooling requirement (decades ago).

Combined with the high quality of living, low poverty rate, high immigration (suppressing wages), and high minimum wage, this functionally meant that there was never any reason for the states to mandate a minimum working age — businesses didn't seek to employ them.

Obviously now that capitalism has corrupted most governments and abandoned the social contract, we need to rethink all norms of modern society.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Eh, I agree with you on most of that except the high minimum wage bit.

The minimum wage for anybody 15 or under is 40% of the wage for anybody over 21. I believe that not all industries do have that provision in their award, but all entry level jobs do. I guess it's a bit of a miracle that it doesn't keep going down further than 15, because if it did, maccas would probably be run by 11 year olds making 10% of the 21+ wage.

But even besides that, our minimum wage isn't really high compared to the cost of living, which is the metric that really matters. Our minimum wage compared to elsewheres cost of living is not a good comparison

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

that is so fucked up