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WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR OTHER LAUNCHERS (lutris/bottles/heroic/legendary,etc):

  • everyone can use + contribute to the same protonfixes, no more managing individual install scripts per launcher
  • everyone can run their games through proton just like a native steam game
  • no steam or steam binaries required
  • a unified online database of game fixes (protonfixes)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My worry is Valve will look at the project and shut it down. Remember, Valve doesn’t care about your Linux, it only cares about money. Not having users on their Client side platform means less revenue and less ads to show.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This doesn’t affect valve at all though. It’s borrowing their tech that they’ve made open source, and figuring out how to use it elsewhere outside of steam.

Actually, it’ll benefit them. More eyes are on proton and any fix will benefit everyone, including games played via steam.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's really up to the corporation whether they think it will benefit them. I agree that Valve has so far not been hostile toward GE, and it looks like proton has a very permissive license, but if it were any other digital storefront, doing anything to allow users to consume your content without using your storefront would be seen as at attack on their bottom line.

I'm actually curious how this new standard would potentially benefit other storefronts who haven't natively supported Linux yet. If it's going to make things easier for existing open source launchers, then it would also make things easier for competing launchers. I know as a consumer, I want GOG, Epic, EA, etc. supporting Linux, but does valve? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. On the one hand, maybe they don't want competition in their niche space, on the other hand, maybe they'll do anything to take marketshare from msft.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Valve's Proton is open source but is it also free to use and distribute in commercial software? Cuz if so, there'd be nothing stopping GOG or Epic from implementing it already, they don't need this project at all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Someone else already explained the licenses, but to your second point, yes, nothing stops any other launcher from using proton, which is what all the other open source launchers do. And yes, no one "needs" this project, just like we don't "need" any standards for anything, but it could make things a lot cleaner and easier to support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you know what open source means?

They're not relying on Valve's goodwill. The license explicitly permits this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

“Third party software included and respected byproducts of Valve’s proprietary”

Legit doesn’t mean you own all the code.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Afaik proton is BSD-3, and everything else important is part of wine which is LGPL. Sure, valve can be hostile if they choose, but they haven't given themselves the legal tools to do much.

Edit: DXVK is apparently under the zlib license.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s Wine/Proton not the other thing that connects to Valves severs and other components.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Eh...I think you don't know what we're all talking about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, didn't notice you were the valve troll.

Carry on with your bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You’re the troll if you can’t explain why no one owns all the code. You can’t even accept the lawsuits that the people of America brought against to Valve Corporation.

Dont talk like you have anything worthwhile going when you refuse to acknowledge their crimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you just make up imaginary phantom shit, no one is going to bother refuting it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

You cannot download all the code, try it bitch i know you can’t because i also cant. Next time confirm your conspiracy theory first.