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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what's up with Orson Scott Card?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

The base Ender series didn't seem to have a lot of issues, and I was surprised when one of my friends said he had nothing to do with Card because he was Mormon.

Then I read the Shadow series (side story in the Ender universe), and whooooo-boy. There was a section with one of the most brilliant genetic scientists of the age talking about how, despite being gay, he chose to marry a woman because the most important thing, the only way to really participate in humanity, is to make babies. Beyond the homophobia, beyond the absolute what-the-fuck about life being meaningless without having kids, he had a genetic scientist in the future who lacked the imagination to figure out how a gay man could have biological children while being married to a man. Something that gay married people are completely capable of doing right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He's a Mormon and the church teaches him to be a bigoted homophobe basically.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sanderson veils Mormonism better, but seems to be very progressive... hiping he doesn't fall off that train.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

He's also friends with Howard Taylor(or at least did 18 seasons of a podcast with him) who is also mormon but writes a reasonably hard scifi comic. I don't recall if there was any direct or implied bigotry that wasn't treated as a bad thing, but I don't recall any specifically lgbt characters either. Some races didn't really have sexes, or didn't have sexual dimorphism iirc, but it's been a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Woah Sandy Branderson is a Mormon?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Think about Mistborn, and words only being true when etched in metal...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

He is, doesn't hide it, and goes about researching stuff he shouldn't religiously agree with by interviewing people of those beliefs/experiences instead of using his own perceptions, from what I've seen and read of his process for Stormlight (where iirc, a gay relationship is seen as more normal and acceptable than a woman having a hand exposed).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whatever the balance is, my impression of Sanderson that of a stable individual. I would be surprised if he suddenly regressed, barring something like a traumatic brain injury of course.

I do think that cult holds him back creatively. He can write a truly horrific scene that I can barely get through about an enslaved man hauling war bridges on his back day after day, but no birds and the bees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Well, he has wrote people having sex, just not the scenes themselves, in both Warbeaker and Mistborn. I think in all those cases they were married though...