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Online vape seller has ‘no intention of stopping’ shipments to Australia, despite nationwide ban — ‘We have no intention of stopping just because of one twat in Canberra.’::The New Zealand-based seller issued a notice to its Australian customers that shipments will continue regardless of the government's vape reform.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

these things have been flooding in and being sold to kids through vape stores – nine out of ten which have been established within walking distance of schools. That’s no accident, they’re doing that because that is their target market.

That's some bullshit. I assume there's already a law banning the sale of vapes to minors.
Schools are built next to residential neighborhoods. Those same neighborhoods with adults living in them are the target market, not kids. Just like cannabis stores are absolutely everywhere now in Canada (including within walking distance of most schools).

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Turns out that most places are within walking distance of a school. Did you know HITLER breathed air?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

That's it, I've taken my last breath!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Went to the (rec) dispensary the other day.

There’s a house across the street, and their kids had a table set up, selling Girl Scout cookies.

Honestly nobody cares. And I hate that it’s illegal for me to park at the dispensary and leave my kids (with my wife) in the car. Under 21 not allowed on the property.

But I can bring my kids into a liquor store. I’d rather bring a bull into a China shop, but I can do it. Can’t even have them in the parking lot of the dispensary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

If you try to buy alcohol in Dan Murphys with kids then you'll get the third degree. If they're teenage kids then they won't sell to you. Meanwhile if I order online it gets delivered to my door and my postie just leaves it there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where I live, you have to be 21 to enter a liquor store

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The three US states I've lived in all allowed children in liquor stores if accompanied by a parent or guardian

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately not bullshit.

Here in Australia, just about every tobacco store was selling them under the counter to kids, often still wearing their school uniforms. Worst still, most of the vapes were dodgy grey market imports with undeclared and often dangerous chemicals in them as well as nicotine. There were more of these stores near schools then there were stores that sell candy.

Common sense dispenery laws for both vapes and recreational cannabis like Canada would make sense here too but our politicians are too beholden to corporate interests and think of the children fear mongering.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What "dodgy grey market" people benefit in any way by adding extra bad stuff?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cheaper to get, bulks it out, flavours it more efficiently? Any number of reason.

There was that apple sauce scandal in the US recently where kids were getting chunky doses of lead because waaaaaaaay down the production chain, some dude grinding cinnamon in Ecuador chose to bulk out his milling output with lead chromate (for the red-orange colour pop) amongst other powders which were not cinnamon.

More government testing up and down the production chain could help stop that sort of thing. Hopefully dodgy imports avoiding the tests at one level, would get clamped at another.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Basically yeah, it's cheaper to use chemicals other than what's approved to make a chemical vape. We were seeing a bit of an endemic of kids being hospitalised because of them.

It's worth keeping in mind these vapes were coming from the same place where even baby formula wasn't off limits to substitute dangerous chemicals into to save a buck.