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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't make the agreement. It's been widely reported on.

The US treasury said that an investigation into government officials and gang leaders revealed the secret negotiations. Luna [chief of the Salvadoran penal system and vice-minister of justice and public security] and Marroquin [chairman of the Social Fabric Reconstruction Unit] allegedly “led, facilitated and organized a number of secret meetings involving incarcerated gang leaders, in which known gang members were allowed to enter the prison facilities and meet with senior gang leadership”.

In addition to financial benefits for the gang members, incarcerated leaders received special treatment in the prisons, including access to mobile phones and sex workers. It said Luna also negotiated support from MS-13 and Barrio 18 gangs for Bukele’s national quarantine during the Covid-19 pandemic.

It sounds like the gang leaders who negotiated with Bukele's regime are incarcerated themselves. And it's not just prisoners in CECOT who are getting better conditions. It's incarcerated gang members all over the country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That quote is sparkly different from your summary. It states that gang leaders get special privileges like prostitutes and the ability to meet with their underlings in order to continue running the gang, along with government funding for the gang. What it doesn't say is that conditions for rank and file prisoners have improved, nor does it state that prisoner conditions have improved nationwide. The quote actually makes sense why they would agree to this, but your assertions here don't.

Do you really think some MS-13 gang leader is going to give up his only access to running the gang, cash payments from the government, and a steady stream of prostitutes because some prisoner from the US is being mistreated or killed? I find that pretty far-fetched.

This really reeks of disinformation in order to trick people into thinking things aren't so bad in CECOT and complacency in that there's some sort of safety valve that will automatically keep things from deteriorating into a straight up Nazi concentration camp.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I think that proving one guy in CECOT has died brings into question the treatment of everyone else in CECOT, including gang members the leaders of the gang do care about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those gang leaders have direct and unmonitored access to the outside world so why would anyone need to question their treatment when they have the ability to tell everyone exactly how they are being treated? Again, why would they give two shits about how some dudes from the US are being treated when they're the ones enjoying all the privileges?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The leaders are only leaders because the unincarcerated members of the gangs listen to them and do what they say. They only do that because they believe the gang leaders have power and influence. Part of that, now, is protection for gang members who get locked up. How long do you think those leaders are going to remain leaders when everyone knows they made a deal with Bukele that Bukele isn't living up to? Not long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The deal is specifically made with these gang leaders to give them special privileges, so what are you talking about that "Bukele isn't living up to" with regard to the treatment of US detainees? They're a completely separate group that have made no deal with Bukele because they're not El Salvadorian gang members.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Looks like I was right. He's still alive.