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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Laws do not need to be moral, logical, rational, or even reasonable

They do to be legitimate, which is what I thought this conversation is about. The flexing of power is many things, but not something that testifies to legal legitimacy in ways that motivate the creation of laws as distinguished from the ordinary structures that arise from blind power in the first place. This is actually something I remember from Philosophy 101, where Socrates talked to the rage filled Thrasymachus who said what's "right" is the same as "the advantage of the stronger" and the whole point of the conversation is that there was more to it than that.

Or, perhaps more to the point, I recall one of the mini-skits in a play called Too Much Light Makes The Baby Go Blind, which had a lion talking about power to a monkey talking about intelligence. The point of the skit is that they were talking past each other, with the lion thinking that drawing a distinction between power and intelligence meant they were missing the lion's point about power.