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I'm not finding a good source. What do you mean about the rights?
I can't seem to find the source of it anymore, either. I think it's a bit hard to look up without exact names because it's actually a few different events that make up one story.
Basically, as I remember, Volition's parent company sold Volition to that shitty company known for buying companies with falling sales and dissolving them, and the rights to Saints Row went with them, but the parent company kept rights to Red Faction, making it impossible for Ultor to really be included in SR after 3. IIRC, Red Faction ended up being owned by the shitty company later on, but at that point it didn't really matter anymore. I can't actually remember if GooH included any actual mentions of Ultor with the reintroduction of Vogel.
It's been a few years, I could have gotten details wrong.
Oh, Ultron is from Red Faction! I get it.
Thank you very much for explaining.