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If the Marshals Go Rogue, Courts Have Other Ways to Enforce their Orders (www.democracydocket.com)

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The Supreme Court has long held that “a pardon cannot stop” courts from punishing cases of civil contempt. And while the marshals have traditionally enforced civil contempt orders, the courts have the power to deputize others to step in if they refuse to do so.

This authority is recognized in an obscure provision of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which govern proceedings in federal trial courts. Rule 4.1 specifies how certain types of “process” — the legal term for orders that command someone to appear in court — are to be served on the party to which they are directed. The rule begins in section (a) by instructing that, as a general matter, process “must be served by a United States marshal or deputy marshal or by a person specially appointed for that purpose.”

The next section, Rule 4.1(b), is entitled, “Enforcing Orders: Committing for Civil Contempt.” It sets some geographical limits for where “[a]n order committing a person for civil contempt of a decree or injunction” may be served based on the federal vs. state nature of the underlying lawsuit. But it does not say who may enforce such an order, and it never modifies the general rule that process may be served by a marshal, deputy marshal or person specially appointed for that purpose. Thus, by its plain terms, Rule 4.1 contemplates that the court may appoint individuals other than the marshals to enforce civil contempt orders.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 days ago (30 children)

And when the courts go rogue they can deputize .. Anyone. Like Andrew Tate, or elon.

Monkey paw urges caution

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Fuck that. That monkey paw bullshit is how the courts were stacked in the first place... Because Democrats are too busy pretending to be the adults in the room to recognize the game has changed

We have to use the tools we're given, or we hand a self described King all power

Not to mention, if this was a tool MAGA had use of, they'd use it with or without precedent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Being pragmatic and realistic is not all sunshine and lollipops. Sometimes it is. These days the sun hates us and the lollipops are 100%plastic.

You already have a king. You had one when his followers declared him god king emperor. It.wasn't defeatist to try to sway people against him by warning of what the inevitable outcomem of.his reelection. Was it? Warning is not complying

It is warning.

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The tools are not within the scope of the rules of the game.

Relying on rules while the bad guys relied on the good guys adhering to decorum is why we are here.

The institutions are being destroyed, their function and.power coalesced.

Do not hope an abstract concept of laws and justice will bring salvation or that they are finished perverting every noble intent and.safety mechanism.

I don't know why you're arguing with me.

Seriously, read my comments.

Tell me what I am.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

You're hostile to so many people who pointed out the obvious flaws in your logic.

I read your comments.

You're incapable of self-reflection and incapable of admitting you're wrong. Pathetic.

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