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If the Marshals Go Rogue, Courts Have Other Ways to Enforce their Orders
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Being pragmatic and realistic is not all sunshine and lollipops. Sometimes it is. These days the sun hates us and the lollipops are 100%plastic.
You already have a king. You had one when his followers declared him god king emperor. It.wasn't defeatist to try to sway people against him by warning of what the inevitable outcomem of.his reelection. Was it? Warning is not complying
It is warning.
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The tools are not within the scope of the rules of the game.
Relying on rules while the bad guys relied on the good guys adhering to decorum is why we are here.
The institutions are being destroyed, their function and.power coalesced.
Do not hope an abstract concept of laws and justice will bring salvation or that they are finished perverting every noble intent and.safety mechanism.
I don't know why you're arguing with me.
Seriously, read my comments.
Tell me what I am.
I don't think you're on the wrong side, I think you're advocating to hold back on using a tool that can be used, right now, to mitigate some of the most terrible shit that can be done to a group of people by a government
But even forgetting what's at stake... Do you think there are no checks on this power? Do you think it isn't used already? There was a case last year where a judge ordered a custom bat mobile or something, and was unhappy he hadn't received it yet. The local cops flew across state lines and seized one in front of the judge in line. The judge ended up balking at using this legal argument, but it was discussed, and the opinion was that the judge had no legal basis for it anyways. I don't remember the resolution, but the judge was in danger of losing his robes over it
There's petty tyrants everywhere... The police are generally enablers of it to start with. Judges are still beholden to oversight, aside from the supreme court apparently
And back to where we are... Things aren't just going to go back to normal in two or four years. We're over the cliff, they're disappearing people and throwing them into what legally classifies as torture with no due process. They're trampling over the courts and the constitution - there's no going back from that, only forward
This isn't the time to tiptoe carefully around. It's not time to come up with reasons to let them continue to act, even if there's problems to work out later
Nowhere did I say anything about not defending.
Nowhere did I say anything about not going on offence.
Nowhere didi say do nothing
Nowhere did I say sit back and wait.
Nowhere.
I said what is likely to happened and presented facts as they are. And what the Rs would do, have done.
How people have chosen to interpret things I wasn't thinking or saying is their fault.
In other posts I've advocated, very aggressively, in many ways, for learning defense, learning offense, ways to organise, etc.for helping others in need, encouraging those with the capacity to fight to fight and not embarrassing others who cannot.
Nowhere do i ever say lay down and die.
Ever.
Just stop already. You presented no facts about deputizing. You speculated, wrongly, and were corrected. You even mentioned the monkey paw, which is just nonsensical fantasy. The burden of communication lies on you. If you failed to convey your meaning then that's your fault, not ours.
And we aren't reading your other posts, we are reading here.