196
Community Rules
You must post before you leave
Be nice. Assume others have good intent (within reason).
Block or ignore posts, comments, and users that irritate you in some way rather than engaging. Report if they are actually breaking community rules.
Use content warnings and/or mark as NSFW when appropriate. Most posts with content warnings likely need to be marked NSFW.
Most 196 posts are memes, shitposts, cute images, or even just recent things that happened, etc. There is no real theme, but try to avoid posts that are very inflammatory, offensive, very low quality, or very "off topic".
Bigotry is not allowed, this includes (but is not limited to): Homophobia, Transphobia, Racism, Sexism, Abelism, Classism, or discrimination based on things like Ethnicity, Nationality, Language, or Religion.
Avoid shilling for corporations, posting advertisements, or promoting exploitation of workers.
Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.
Avoid AI generated content.
Avoid misinformation.
Avoid incomprehensible posts.
No threats or personal attacks.
No spam.
Moderator Guidelines
Moderator Guidelines
- Don’t be mean to users. Be gentle or neutral.
- Most moderator actions which have a modlog message should include your username.
- When in doubt about whether or not a user is problematic, send them a DM.
- Don’t waste time debating/arguing with problematic users.
- Assume the best, but don’t tolerate sealioning/just asking questions/concern trolling.
- Ask another mod to take over cases you struggle with, if you get tired, or when things get personal.
- Ask the other mods for advice when things get complicated.
- Share everything you do in the mod matrix, both so several mods aren't unknowingly handling the same issues, but also so you can receive feedback on what you intend to do.
- Don't rush mod actions. If a case doesn't need to be handled right away, consider taking a short break before getting to it. This is to say, cool down and make room for feedback.
- Don’t perform too much moderation in the comments, except if you want a verdict to be public or to ask people to dial a convo down/stop. Single comment warnings are okay.
- Send users concise DMs about verdicts about them, such as bans etc, except in cases where it is clear we don’t want them at all, such as obvious transphobes. No need to notify someone they haven’t been banned of course.
- Explain to a user why their behavior is problematic and how it is distressing others rather than engage with whatever they are saying. Ask them to avoid this in the future and send them packing if they do not comply.
- First warn users, then temp ban them, then finally perma ban them when they break the rules or act inappropriately. Skip steps if necessary.
- Use neutral statements like “this statement can be considered transphobic” rather than “you are being transphobic”.
- No large decisions or actions without community input (polls or meta posts f.ex.).
- Large internal decisions (such as ousting a mod) might require a vote, needing more than 50% of the votes to pass. Also consider asking the community for feedback.
- Remember you are a voluntary moderator. You don’t get paid. Take a break when you need one. Perhaps ask another moderator to step in if necessary.
view the rest of the comments
If your argument is to lie about our discussion then your statement is correct, it is not a serious discussion.
Yes, we are discussing how to deal with fascists in social environments where there is limited space and/or time to communicate between parties. So the examples are drawn from relevant sources such as twitter and political debates.
It's raining too much to mow, maybe next week. So not you then. I recommend Why Nations Fail.
There were people from the queer and neurodivergent communities in the chat discussing the topics with Vaush. They agreed with him.
You can always find people of any group to agree with any statement (especially if they’re already watching an ableist person). Which is why I’m telling you to seek out actual disabled communities. They often have advocacy and activist subgroups who can tell you a lot about ableism, its impact on disabled people and effective activism against it.
Real life discourse is very different from online discourse, and real life is where actual activism is done and changes are made.
Many of the people in Vaush's community consider themselves autistic. In fact many in his audience identify as part of the neurodivergent and/or queer communities. Nor is Vaush an ableist person, he just uses rhetoric effectively. My argument has exceeded the arbitrary bars your argument has set. Regardless none of these criticisms have any bearing on the content of my argument. These ad hominem suggestions are not a requirement to discuss this topic nor do they have any bearing on the validity of effective strategies to defeat fascism.
The idea that online discourse doesn't impact real life is nonsense. The far-right is spreading online just fine and they shape public opinion everyday. The idea that we could dismiss the internet, the largest and fastest communication network, for its potential to act as a means of activism and change is laughable. This belief is in part why the left is losing. Coupled with this moral obsession to be pure by not saying bad words.
Your argument has nothing to offer to justify being rhetorically ineffective. It only provides straw men, ad hominem statements, and blatant lies. Nothing your argument has offered will do anything to stem the tied of far-right propaganda online that is going to get so many people killed. On the ground action is of course still a necessary component of resisting fascism, but the far-right will run circles around us on the left if we do not take the internet seriously.