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I got a stack of PCS that are very similar if not identical. Third gen i7, 8 gigs of ram, one terabyte hdd, all but one are the same HP model with the same motherboard, etc too. I upgraded the RAM in a few of them, and I have enough spare TB hard drives to put an extra in each. Two have Nvidia GeForce 210 gpus, and the unique one out of the bunch I'll probably throw in a spare RX 570 I have.

But, what to do with them? Easiest answer is probably sell them all for $75 each but that's not what we do here, right? Right now I'm assuming they all support w o l and I can easily set up ansible/awx for orchestration. I'm just looking for some fun experiments, projects, or actual uses for this Tower of PC towers

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Eh... Maybe for learning.

Although they technically support vt-d, performance on 13-year-old machines will be pretty abysmal by today's standards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Even first gen i-series Intel CPUs support VT-d. I had an i7-870 that ran my entire setup under Proxmox for several years, until early 2023.

What you really need is RAM. In my case, ~32GB per node in a three-machine cluster is not quite enough, but a 4c/8t CPU is more than plenty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They are not too terrible really. 3rd gen i7 is the Ivy Bridge generation, so 22 nm. For many homelab server tasks the CPUs would be just fine. Power efficiency is of course worse than modern CPUs, but way better than the previous 32 nm Sandybridge generation. I had such a system with integrated graphics and one SSD and that drew 15 W at idle at the wall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

My first gen i7 would still be going strong if the mobo hadn't started dying. Especially running Linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I focused on the I’m just looking for some fun experiments, projects part.
I wouldn't use the machines for anything other than experimenting for fun, they're power hungry too if counting per performance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The at load efficency isn't always the most important metric, depending on what you are using the machines for. If they are mostly idle, efficiency isn't too bad. Many server tasks don't load the CPU to the fullest anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's true, if there's no load then the difference isn't much money.
I'm running a NAS, some game servers, a forgejo instance and a jellyfin server and more on my machine so it's never truly idle and I forgot to think about that metric.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Slap a few zigbee smart plugs into your setup, cluster them in Home Assistant, and measure the total power draw. That's what I do. It's eye-opening... I learned that my 5800X3D/7900XTX gaming PC is capable of pulling exponentially more power than my entire server cluster. I shut that thing off when I'm not using it now haha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My server has a gaming vm with gpu passthrough (6650 XT). With my vm powered on and idle the whole server draws about 60w-65w. Monitor not included.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Damn, that's impressive. My rig idles at ~110W, but I've heard that the 5800X3D just....does that. Especially so with the fact that it has AMD's beefiest GPU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

I went for a tiny Ryzen 7600 (no X), so it comes at the cost of a worse cpu and worse gpu. :)