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Can we agree we need to get these meek fuckers out of leadership (www.nbcnews.com)

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Call your senators, they can still block this despite Schumers push. The vote is tomorrow. If all republican vote for it, they need 7 dems. 8 with Rand Paul who has said he'll vote no. (Republicans are not using reconciliation so it needs the the filibuster)

Many senate dems are publicly coming out against voting for cloture (meaning they won't vote to let it get through the filibuster). As of what I last read, around ~~11~~ 10 dems are thought to potentially vote to let it pass filibuster. Most of those are still not sure. We only need a handful more of those to become noes and it will get blocked. Some yeses have flipped to noes because of public pressure. We cannot let up now

Link to find direct numbers your senators

https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

Or call the capitol switch board (202) 224-3121

House dems are publicly telling the senate not to do this (and it's not just AOC on this - it's quite a few of them). Earlier read that 7 Dem state AGs are saying the same. Federal worker unions are telling senate dems not do this. Keep the pressure up

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

One thing to keep in mind though...

I was outraged a minute ago, but now I'm not sure.

When the government is shut down, so are the courts, and we need them.

How one branch is capable to shut down apparently a co-equal branch of the government?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not immediately

Unlike executive branch agencies, the federal courts can continue operations for about two weeks following a government shutdown. When a shutdown loomed in September 2019, the U.S. federal courts confirmed they could use reserve or carryover funds accumulated from various revenue sources not dependent on Congress, such as case filing fees. When courts are on notice that a government shutdown may be looming, they can take steps to conserve funds by deferring non-critical expenses — for example, by curbing travel, new hires, and certain contracts.

https://judicialstudies.duke.edu/2024/05/how-a-u-s-government-shutdown-impacts-courts-access-to-justice/

Plus voting in favor of this CR would be codifying much of what these cases are about. Many of the illegal spending cuts would become legal until September making the cases moot.

It would also fuck over DC local government in a way the executive branch cannot easily do. Congress can control DC budgets but very little of the DC budget comes from federal money (<1%) where Trump could mess with. The CR has a clause to cut $1 billion from their budget despite that not saving the federal government any money

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a good point. Looks like both ways are bad, but voting yes, still looks worse.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Indeed, there's a reason the Federal Worker Unions are saying to vote against the CR despite the likely shutdown that would entail

Plus it would teach senate Republicans that they can do basically whatever they want as long as they threaten a shutdown. You have to stand up strong to bullies it's the only thing they understand

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which are the 11?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Turns out it was actually 10 as I accidentally counted Cortez Masto as two people whoops

Schumer, Hassan, Peters, Durbin, Schatz, King, Shaheen, Fetterman, Cortez Masto and Gillibrand

https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lkbxyja44s2c

In terms of what's more confirmed by statement and such here's one tracker that seems to somewhat regularly update

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/senate-cloture-vote-tally