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Births in Japan hit record low as government warns crisis at ‘critical state’
(www.theguardian.com)
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What intelligent pair of humans would have a child with the climate apocalypse looming on the horizon?
We fix it by going extinct.
It benefits every other living thing on earth lol
Even without that, kids are expensive, housing is expensive, and women are expected to pull double duty working and caring for the kids. And then your kid gets to go to cram school and end up in the same work-sleep-repeat hell that you've been in your whole life.
Even without climate change I don't know why anyone would have kids.
I would like humanity to continue, even if it means the next generation has to solve problems we created.
Why does humanity need to continue? Not being an ass, but I don’t get the moral panic around that.
We need to threaten to ruling class by refusing to have kids unless things improve. It's the last nonviolent option there is. They can either actually do something about the out of control costs of living vs wages or humanity should die out completely.
It's not a choice of wage increase or extinction. It's population decline makes labor more valuable. Like the black plague freed the serfs.
Reduced population is a good thing and a new sustainable balance will be reached.
Why? We exploit every resource available to us until there's nothing left to exploit. We've driven 70% of all species to extinction in a quarter of a million years, equivalent to a super volcano or a meteor. Humanity is fucking awful.
We are the only known intelligent life in the universe and that's worth preserving, even if we're not perfect. And unlike a meteor or supervolcano, humanity can learn and improve. And I think we are, hopefully we reach a point where we can live sustainably on earth before it's too late.
i'm with you bro, and im a total misanthrope. I've developed a love/hate relationship with my species though, and i don't blame most of us for the misery a scant few have created and continue to propagate. I wanna see us succeed, but insofar as making kids is concerned that's not how i'll contribute. Even the human act of having children has been commodified and leveraged against us. A human will put up with far more if he has a child at home to provide for after all.
you'll need to make up 2 extra kids for my wife and me, can you help us out? We wanted kids, but we looked around at the world, and we said uhhhh HARD no
We aren't intelligent. We're killing ourselves and every living thing we touch.
Then get to fucking
So the whole origin of the birthrate collapse is that people can barely afford to survive on their own, dont have enough expendable income for dating to find a partner, and are so drained from working long hours that theu dont have the energy to look. There is a massive loneliness epidemic because capitalism has nothing left to consume but itself.
I'm well aware. But what is anyone doing about it? Nations have yet to acknowledge these issues as the cause and us bitching online isn't doing anything.
revolutions spring from speeches, friend. its too easy to dismiss chatter as useless, but minds need to meet to share information, and introduce or reinforce ideas. the internet is perhaps the best "3rd place" there is to discuss shit what needs discussing.
and theres cats
Poland implemented 500+ program 7 years ago. 500 PLN(~100€) per month per child if you have more than one.
It did not increase the birth rate.
There are similar programs in UK, Germany, Lithuania and Belgium .
That doesn't address any of the other issues that are contributing to the problem though. The government can offer whatever miniscule child care support it wants: it makes no difference when people cant even get to the point that they are having relationships and even accidentally having kids.
Because 100 euro a month is fucking nothing. Rents increase more than that each year lately. How much is daycare eqch month in poland?
Around 60€
That's surprisingly low. Even with its affordability, that leaves parents with an extra 40 euro a month after child care. What is that? A tank of fuel? The ruling class is so far out of touch
In Warsaw 40€ is Regular ticket + Reduced ticket for all public transport for a month