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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I would support stronger ties to Canada, but Canada is not exactly in Europe

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Canada does share a land boarder with Denmark.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Two! Both sea and land borders with France. Don't forget Vimy Ridge!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We do where. Seems Denmark is really far away.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they're referring to Greenland but I'm not aware of a land border

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Greenland is part of Denmark, we share a border with them through Hans Island

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So are many parts of the Netherlands or France, for example

Local residents are not Europeans, they don't necessarily even use euro despite their mainland countries doing just that, but they are residents of the European Union.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

True, but 'being in the EU' is actually not that simple, and these territories have special statuses and and are not part of the 'core EU'. Here is a simple visualization

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if we just take Canada and move it over a little?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thinking outside the ~~box~~ continent. I like it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why would that matter? It's a political and economical union, not a geographical one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's literally one of their requirements.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The definition of what classifies as European is up to the assessment of the European Council and the European Commission and need not be defined by geography.

III. CONDITIONS OF ACCESSION a) The European State

The sole material condition laid down by Article O of the TEU is that the applicant must be a 'European State'. There is no unequivocal interpretation of that criterion. It can be read equally well in geographical, cultural or political terms.

In 1987 an application to become a Member of the Communities was received from Morocco. The application was rejected by the Council on the grounds that Morocco was not a European State ( 7). In the case of Turkey, Article 28 of the Association Agreement signed in 1963 incudes the option of Turkey's eventually acceding to the Communities. Turkey in fact lodged an application to accede on 14 April 1987. Historically, Turkey has formed part of the so-called 'European concert'. Although part of Turkey's territory is located geographically in Asia, Parliament, the Council and the Commission have confirmed Turkey's eligibility ( 8). This example shows that the term 'European State' need not be interpreted in a strictly geographical sense. It is at all events a criterion subject to political assessment.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/enlargement/briefings/23a2_en.htm

In other words if we decide that Canada counts, then Canada counts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe not right now but requirements can be changed, especially in times of need.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As the parliament says

In order to apply for EU membership, a country has to be European and respect the EU's democratic values

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20180126STO94113/enlargement-how-do-countries-join-the-eu

Since according to Article 49

The applicant country must [...] be a European state;

https://publications.europa.eu/resource/cellar/0ae670d2-1ece-4994-b1e3-adda39e1c6de.0006.03/DOC_1

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cyprus isn't in Europe at all and is in the EU. You just have to be "substantially" European, according to whatever committee.

Failing that, it's possible to be in the EU in every way but officially. Norway and Switzerland have that situation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

respect the EU's democratic values

Just like Hungary does?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

They did when they got in.

The problem is that it's impossible to kick out a member if they stop respecting the EU's democratic values whilst being a member.