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And that's where the debate should end.
Laws exist explicitly in order to clarify situations, because without laws, things fall into a hopeless mire of subjectivity and all too often end up being settled through a competition to see who's the most convincing liar or the most viscious thug, neither one of which is a quality that should be rewarded.
Ukraine has every right to join NATO and Russia has no right to invade Ukraine. The end.
Everyone has right to point nuclear missiles at the US in Cuba and Canada, then. If there are assholes, there will be countries threatened by assholes and forced to react.
Ah, yes, the old WMD excuse for economical gain USA used often.
Weird how this "fear of nukes" did not lead to the invasion of Finland when you were attacking Georgia and Ukraine. After sanctions, embargos, and other CIA-like activities, Russia did to them for years.
I find it disingenuous that you justify those actions as ok, just because USA did the same abhorrent things.
Before the "react" you write fervidly about, NATO was mostly done for, Finland and Sweden were happy and neutral. Germany was averse to military spending. Only the USA was dragging its allies to endless wars and forcing them to spend more. With the invasions, the list of applicants increased, and all the countries are happy using more of the GDP for warfare.
Maybe the deals done in closed doors are too complex for me to grasp their benefits, but none of them justify the killing of innocents.
For an anti-war community, you seem to promote war constantly. You have been defending the USA actions lately, you might want to update the description on that too.
Not clear on what you mean. If you are suggesting that all foreign influence is evil, US influence is seperate for being demonic puppetry of targets in order to diminish Russia and China, or permit corrupt privatization and US military base funding. That Russia offers trade or narratives that discouraged Ukraine and Georgia from being a suicidal US puppet has no evil to it.
That "happiness" is worrisome and irrational. Democracy is supporting "good pro nato nazis" while appoplectic over "bad anti nato nazis". The derangement of democracy, and pro war left/center is somehow a reactionary "win over the rational" like conservatives hurt themselves by supporting "wins over liberals".
Stoltenberg was very proud of the achievement you listed, including how it was used to provoke war on Russia, and ignore their requested path for security guarantees.
I deny this, but examples?
Lol, you want to debate, but you had to invent arguments and assign them to me. This is ridiculous and you are very dishonest.
My text has several points, none of them you addressed and just insisted on spilling around your warmongering.
Even when we seem to agree that gov spending should be focused on something else than warfare - I find ironic your conclusions, "Russia started a war, and it was used to provoke war on Russia".
You know which ones, do not play coy
I feel like you don't really care what people write, you just use whatever to defend war, either that or your LLM/Call center script is broken.
As mentioned, I did not understand your point, and went through possible interpretations.
Oh yes, it is very difficult to ask someone to explain something. It is easier to go from "it is wrong to justify an invasion by fear of nukes" to "all foreign influence is evil".
I re-read my text a few times, and I could not find anywhere saying that helping a nation build a dam, help with infrastructure or logistics projects, create economic blocs or easing bureaucracy for transit as being evil. Nice gymnastics over there to spill your warmongering propaganda.