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What are your opinions on building, let's say, left wing 'militias'? (lemmygrad.ml)

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I used to be a football hooligan in what now seems like a previous life and I hope it comes as no surprise that the vast majority of the ultras sections are hunting grounds for right wing movements seeking out young (mostly) men who are willing to form what are essentially militias.

Apart from this several right wing groups throughout Europe and the US have their own militias who do martial arts and combat training.

This, of course, seems all very LARP-y until it doesn't and they come to protests better equipped to fight.

For the time I have been active in political organizing not once have I seen the same effort coming from a left wing party and honestly it seems rather naive. I don't think you should advertise stuff like that out in the open because that would make you an easy target for bad press and it will probably scare people away anyway.

But still. Should left wing organisations offer martial arts or other self defense courses? Should we be 'above that'? And what if shit does hit the fan?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I think if you attempt to create left wing militia's they will be thoroughly infiltrated with cops. In order to keep an eye on liberal environmental groups, whose most threatening action to law and order was chaining themselves to a tree, the UK government was willing to pay multiple cops endless overtime for years to infiltrate and ingratiate themselves.

Team sports are a better way to produce fit agile people that can handle themselves and work in a group. Hurling for instance would help train you to fight with a stick. Rugby: fitness, strength and coordinated group action that would be useful for protests that devolve into a riot. Football is probably the easiest to organise: helps cardio, awareness and coordination. Golf: can help you become a self absorbed prick. These skills (apart from golf's) can be easily modified into more clandestine talents in little time. That base of fitness, agility, awareness and comradery becomes a swiss army knife. Mostimportantly, there's nothing at all suspicious about organising it.