Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2024
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“I’m going to vote against the dude that is giving weapons to Israel, who gives weak-effort strongly worded letters to try to stop being assholes in the butchering of Gaza. Nevermind that in doing so it ensures the win of the fascist megalomaniac who will shove weapons faster, and has given full throated support to Israel, along with the party that says that everyone in Gaza should die. That’ll teach them. Fuckin moderates, compromise with me or I’ll help Gaza burn faster.”
“I’m going to vote for a dude that will ensure the comfort of westerners at the cost of black and brown lives around the world and I feel good about this because the alternative is worse. Of course my life is more important than someone in Gaza! The status quo of this system isn’t stomping on me as much as it can and I’d like to keep it that way as long as I can. Yes, please focus your stomping boot somewhere else and I’ll continue to vote for that boot. There’s no ethical line I won’t cross to save myself from oppression because I’m a coward who refuses to listen to the oppressed”
Democracy is already dead if we are forced to vote for genocide. It might just take those comfortable with the status quo longer to figure that out.
"Fix everything NOW or I help the fascists make everything worse!"
If you think cutting off arms to Israel and promising not to block strikes is "everything" you really aren't paying attention. And please, take a moment to consider what compromises Biden has made with progressives and leftists. Give me some examples.
Let's have an honest discussion about where in between "nothing" and "everything" compromises have been made for the policies and decisions leftists and progressives are fighting for.
I don't play games with sea lions.
Sounds like you'd rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.
Thats all I’m hearing. “Everything must be 100% or I’ll turn this bus and speed back to Fascistland, so help me!”
We tried compromising, you guys didn’t want to.
Now that you need us you pretend to care
Ok now do moderates.
The GOP is running out of cash saving the orange fascist from the results of his own actions. They'll go bankrupt and then we'll have a one party system where everyone will have to vote for whatever our party brass puts on the ballot for us.
Easy.
“We like how things are and while we like some of what you offer and suggest you want it all or nothing which is too much of a shock so we’ll stick with what we know. But right now we’re literally trying to fight off a fascist Hitler wanna-be, how about we fucking discus this later?”
"Don't block strikes and don't support genocide." is "all or nothing"?
When? You didn't want to discuss it at any point in the last four years.
But right now we’re literally trying to fight off a fascist Hitler wanna-be, how about we fucking discus this later?
When? You didn’t want to discuss it at any point in the last four years.
Considering Biden was on the picket line with the auto strikers, I disagree. Considering Biden is trying to shovel weapons to a Taiwan and to Ukraine, and yes unfortunately to Israel as well, he at least has criticized and made requests for ceasefires and hostage exchanges.
Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Is there more they could do? 100% yes. Is it better than it was 4 years ago with what Orange? Hands down.
Republicans would be 1000000x worse. And clearly you want that, over what the other side has done. Be honest with yourself and stop wasting our time.
Oh by "discussion" you thought I meant you say what you think, get your way and the rest of us just shut up and deal with it? That isn't what I meant. I hope I've clarified that for you. This right here is a discussion and it's only happening because you need something from me. The moment you don't need my vote you'll go right back to the kinds of "discussions" you're talking about.
You asked compromise. He did shit. He did a fuckton more than the other fuck did or will do.
Right now we are literally fighting off miniHitler. After that is done we can talk about what MORE they can do. And I personally will be demanding more.
Once the orange fuck is defeated.
Until then? Fuck off with the purity bullshit. You’re wasting my time, your time, and everyone else with a lick of sense in your quest to install Orange back into the White House.
Who, again, is WORSE and completely opposite to everything you stand for. But you’d clearly want that.
So once trump is gone you guys can continue to ignore us?
This is the battlefield and you want our help, but want to give nothing.
Just like you have for years, just like you did in 2020
Exactly. And 2016, and 2012 and 2008 and every year in between.
He stood somewhere? That's your example of "compromise"?