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Germany's leading Social Democratic Party (SPD) and the opposition Christian Democratic Party (CDU) have ordered high schools in Berlin's borough of Neukolln to distribute brochures titled The Myth of Israel #1948.

The brochure states there are five "myths" around the creation of the state of Israel, which are subsequently refuted in short essays by various authors.

In the first section, debunking myth #1, that Jews and Arabs lived together in peace before Israel was founded, Israel's pre-state militia, the Haganah, responsible for the destruction of 531 Palestinian villages and the expulsion of 700,000 Palestinians between December 1947 and the summer of 1948, is promoted as a merely "defensive" Jewish resistance movement.

"Myth #5: Israel is to blame for the Nakba", includes a text by researcher Shany Mor titled "the UN is distorting the meaning of the Nakba: its view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is extremely one-sided".

In the text, Mor states that "displacement during war - then and now - was nothing unusual".

He also labels the UN's attention to the Palestinian cause "obsessive" and the Arab defeat of 1948 a myth.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean you have a point and I agree with most of what you’re saying, but we’re sending weapons and providing rhetorical cover for the Israeli government. E.g. by the police violently interrupting protests, or worse insisting that the claims of genocide are baseless and going as far as announcing to intervene on Israel’s behalf in the ICJ.

Palestinians are being killed by German-delivered ammunition all while Germany is defending Israel in the ICJ. This is clearly supporting the ongoing genocide

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I know, it's fucked up. I just want to comment on these braindead "Nazis gonna Nazi, amirite?" comedians littering every thread about Germany and Israel right now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey you're getting downvoted pretty hard in this thread but just want to say I think you're right. Having a nuanced opinion is tough on social media. (I already see one commenter calling you a Nazi as a result)

The whole idea that this is happening because Germans just love genocide so much is just beyond ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thanks. I think it's nice that you come out and say this. I want to say it doesn't bother me but it does. I am playing on the same damn team as they are. They're throwing all these talking points at me and I'm like "I know! I agree with all of that!", so surreal

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The reality is that people are really disappointed in Germany for once again supporting Genocide.

Especially with Gaza being a literal concentration camp entrapping two million people, the similarities become rather hard to ignore.

It's a low blow but factually the Nazis are Nazi'ing again pretty hard.

Nobody is personally holding you responsible, but I hope you can put pressure on your government to stop their complicity in this Genocide.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The low blow is counterproductive, don't you see?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I'm afraid that Germany doesn't get a free pass when, once again, it supports extreme violence along racial lines with an intensity that has surpassed every other such cases in the modern era but the of the Nazis, accompanied by extreme racist proclamations and even Nazi-style propaganda.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's gonna be called a duck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

It is not counter productive. It is an apt comparison that quickly gets people to understand the gravity of the situation. A huge Genocide is going on I do not care about people's feelings getting hurt from the truth.

I'll leave you with a final quote.

Nice people made the best Nazis. My mom grew up next to them. They got along, refused to make waves, looked the other way when things got ugly and focused on happier things than “politics.” They were lovely people who turned their heads as their neighbors were dragged away. You know who weren’t nice people? Restisters - Naomi Shulman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Okay, Nazi-

That's what you wanted right? Now cry foul and send more weapons to isreal.