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Women STEM students up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism (www.hepi.ac.uk)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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We know that women students and staff remain underrepresented in Higher Education STEM disciplines. Even in subjects where equivalent numbers of men and women participate, however, many women are still disadvantaged by everyday sexism. Our recent research found that women who study STEM subjects at undergraduate level in England were up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism. The main perpetrators of this sexism were not university staff, however, but were men STEM degree students.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious if they asked the men if they'd experienced sexism too. Most stem subjects are predominantly female so this seems to be a study seeking an answer that suits a narrative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

STEM is dominated by men. Especially the workforce. https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf23315/. About 50% of women that take STEM majors switch to non-STEM majors, while about 35% of males switch. This is a Yale source, though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You're being disingenuous. The study posted relates to sexism at university where stem subjects are predominantly female.

Workforce stats /= University stats which I think you're aware.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Source? The Yale link above specifically mentions:

Nationally, women make up 57.3% of bachelor’s degree recipients but only 38.6% of STEM bachelor’s degree recipients.

Anecdotally, I was in a STEM-focused school and major over 20 years ago, and it was overwhelming male-dominated. One of my colleagues graduated less than 10 years ago, and her experience was not dissimilar. She had to deal with quite a bit of sexism too, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your own damn link contradicts that bullshit stem bachelor degree stat.

I'd search for another but people shooting themselves in the foot amuses me to no end 😂

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are you even going on about? It literally says:

Women represent 57.3% of undergraduates but only 38.6% of STEM undergraduates

That means women are obtaining most of their degrees via non-STEM studies.

Women represent 52% of the college-educated workforce, but only 29% of the science and engineering workforce.

And that is reflected in the study's figures for employment as well.

I’d search for another but people shooting themselves in the foot amuses me to know end

Well let's look over the score here. Someone has provided two different links to back up their argument and you've provided… Oh look, none. You're making claims and pointing out things that clearly do not exist or are anecdotal. Nothing you have done in the last three comments indicates to anyone that any of us should take anything you have to say with any kind of value.

So I guess you are amused to know [sic] end, but a point or logical argument you have not made. But hey if you thinking you took the W here and that keeps you quiet, then good job you totally owned everyone here. Amazing wordsmithing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your Yale link is nonsense as I think you're aware. Your original link shows a closer stat to reality though it's based on 2020 data - currently stem is predominantly female.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6759027/

Interesting; you have to dig past the usual misandry sites to find an impartial source but Pew research found 53% of stem graduates female in 2018 and rising.

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2021/04/01/stem-jobs-see-uneven-progress-in-increasing-gender-racial-and-ethnic-diversity/

You can also just check unis individually.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well I mean, do you read the links you provide?

While women now account for 57% of bachelor's degrees across fields and 50% of bachelor's degrees in science and engineering broadly (including social and behavioral sciences), they account for only 38% of bachelor's degrees in traditional STEM fields (i.e., engineering, mathematics, computer science, and physical sciences; Table 1).

There's where your 50% comes from. And as you can see, your link also aligns with the 38.6% previously mentioned.

See? Now was that hard? See how once you explained yourself we could clear up the confusion you were having? Nothing wrong with that, easy to be confused by the various terms that are being tossed around.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Nah you're still being disingenuous. The stats don't lie - even the stats you provided 😂.

I would have thought you'd be happy to see stem taken over by women. Though if you were actually interested in equality you'd also be worried about why men aren't applying. That's a real problem - for women too.