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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How long until they change 8.8.8.8 and break half the internet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's too big to fail now. Advertisers hardcode it into their apps and iot devices to evade DNS adblockers for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Joke's on them, I block Google DNS in my router, and a bunch of DoH servers (fuck I hate DoH).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

DoH and DoT, originally developed to prevent ISP to tamper with DNS query to inject ads, now ironically used by advertisers to evade DNS-based blocking on their ads sdk and iot devices.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for them to figure out how to inject ads into DNS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It would be trivially easy.

Request for www.taylorswift.com

Return IP to client for a dynamically created temporary web page that shows a Ticketmaster.com ad with a countdown of 10 seconds and javascript redirect to the actual taylorswift.com IP

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think they wouldn't do that, since they could do the redirect within Chrome itself. The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers, but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The only reason they would do this is to grab users on other browsers,

Yes that would be the purpose.

but that would mean everyone else stopping to use Google DNS, which means less data to collect or sell.

I agree, which is why I also agree with you why they haven't done it yet, but I was speaking to how they could do it, not the fallout from them doing so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But, HTTPS certificates.
Unless they provided overrides for their ads in Chrome, but at that point why do it with DNS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Google is way ahead of you, they are a certificate authority now, so in theory they can do this right now. Take a look at any site's https certificate and a significant portion of them are now signed by Google Trust Services LLC thanks to Cloudflare using them to generate free https certificates (in addition to letsencrypt). Note that they won't ever pull this trick though because it'll irreversibly damage their reputation.