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If I had a nickel for every time someone says "this person's being a huge jerk to me but I think they might be neurodivergent"
(lemmy.world)
Regular reminder that being an asshole is not a symptom of any form of neurodivergence. (You can replace “neurodivergent” with depressed, anxious, bipolar, etc. and the diagram works equally well)
ETA: social faux pas, awkwardness, and genuine symptoms of neurodivergence don’t make you an asshole. I shouldn’t have to say this? An “asshole” is someone who enacts a pattern of abusive, controlling, harassing, and/or harmful behavior with no remorse or concern for how other people are affected.
Seems like some users thought this thread was a free pass to question neurospicy folks legitimacy regardless of assholeishness. Cool lemmy.world, cool /s
It's because the phrase "neurodivergence" is an umbrella term. It's all but useless in the context given. That's a fact no matter how cool and breezy you are about people with disabilities.
I have an older brother with cerebral palsy - I know no other life than one that sympathizes with people with disabilities. I dedicated my life to helping children with disabilities. I have worked with children with cerebral palsy, autism, adhd, dyspraxia, downs syndrome, retts syndrome, ALS and many other conditions and brain injuries for a chunk of my life spanning over 20 years. I was treating them from before Ritalin was used to treat patients with ADHD (in England at least).
The term "neurodivergence" is not useful in the context it is used in here. Everyone is neurodivergent, and the terms popularity modern times has tweaked it to mean something else that is not clear. A social media "tag" used as an umbrella term is just that. It's not a diagnosis or an excuse because it's not one thing.
It is exactly like saying "i have fibromyalgia" - because that is also an umbrella term that leads to the question, "What does that mean in this context?"
The umbrella term "neurodivergence" includes both conditions that aren't an excuse and are an excuse for behaving like an asshole. Anyone can claim they are neurodivergent because they are. Therefore some people will use the term as an excuse for behaving badly no matter what their quirks are.
If everyone is neurodivergent then there would not be a term neurotypical, go educate yourself. No two brains are the same but there are ranges that be be used to identify non typical patterns.
Everyone is neurodivergent. The term is often used to describe people on the autistic spectrum. I think that something along those lines is what you meant to say while you told me to educate myself.
The thing is, championing neurodiversity is good for those on the autistic spectrum, but that doesn't mean that neurodiversity doesn't include all the other ways in which no two brains are the same. There is no diagnostic criteria for being neurodivergent. Two neurodivergent people may share no common ground at all.
You did not read.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurodiversity
Ok. Fine I get what you're saying. I read the page from the university i work for, and also Harvards information. I didn't read wikipedia.
Regardless, the exact same point can be made. Explain to me how this makes the term suitable in the context of this post.
My entire point is that a "neurodivergeant" person is not one kind of person. It's many different kinds of people. It's autistic people, it's people with ADHD. It's a broad term. I myself was thinking that of course antisocial personality disorder would be neurodivergeant and a reason to be perceived as an asshole. The post makes no sense because to answer it, you would have to evaluate every single kind of neurodivergeant person.