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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] [email protected] 219 points 1 day ago (23 children)

You just described the average Tankie around here lmao

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I am pretty convinced that .ml is legitimately used as a Russian troll training ground before they get promoted to Facebook and reddit.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Meanwhile, at .ml:

Since Pi is infinite and non-repeating, would that mean any finite sequence of non-repeating numbers should appear somewhere in Pi?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even the most extreme extremist of echo chambers will have benign random conversations. Singling out a random blurb of conversation, without even any source link, is just cherry picking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Are we saying it's an echo chamber, or a literal propaganda training ground commissioned by the Russian government?

I'm not sitting here saying that one random thread I spotted when I jumped over there totally disproves either of those. It's more of an amusing counterexample. I would LOVE if people would stop doing this thing where they expect you to defend an argument you didn't make, I feel like I've pointed out it on this site 3 times in as many days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago

It's even worse when you link to the actual comments.

https://lemmy.ml/post/24032724

They are having an extended conversation about a question which has an actual real mathematical answer. The correlation between what mathematics knows about it, and the things the lemmy.ml people are trying to say about it with a tone of voice that implies they have some knowledge and you need to listen to them, is almost nonexistent.

There are, to be fair, a bunch of highly-upvoted explanations of the real answer, which is that we don't know. But there are also plenty of top-level comments getting lots of upvotes, which say things like:

Yes, this is implied. It’s also why many people use digits of pi as passwords and make the password hint “easy as pi”.

Yeah. This is a plot point used in a few stories, eg Carl Sagan’s “Contact”

Yes

Yes.

And if you’re thinking of a compression algorithm, nope, pigeonhole principle.

Not just any all finite number sequence appear in pi

It's actually extremely popular, it looks like, to just come up with some kind of random nonsense and then for one of the lemmy.ml people to be telling other lemmy.ml people that your random nonsense is the answer they're looking for. When it comes out of the realm of politics and into the realm of mathematics, it suddenly looks really jarring and weird that they're all so committed to sitting around handing out wrong answers to each other all day.

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