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Antiwork

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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

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[–] [email protected] 180 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Work ethic never went out of fashion. Many, many people work very hard everyday. Always have. Work is a part of life, always has been, always will be. It's the incentives that are the problem. Paying people just enough (or not enough, in many cases) to just keep their heads above water, for taking on more and more work, so that owners, investors, and executives can make ever increasing profits, just doesn't motivate people to work very hard. Much of the hard work in the current system is motivated by fear. That is not positive or sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Hard work feels great when it benefits you, your community, folks you care about, or even just real people.

It feels fucking awful to work hard when the only people who will benefit are some rich assholes who exploit you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Super well said!

First, don’t get stuck in the mindset that hard work is only worthwhile when making money. You can work on things that directly enhance your life and those of the people around you and skip the medium of exchange entirely.

Then, upgrade to the understanding that hard work to only benefit others can be the most rewarding yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It probably won't make you feel any better, but if you work for a corporation the profits don't just go to rich assholes. People's pension plans and retirement funds buy and sell stocks, and so do mutual funds anybody with money can buy. You don't have to be rich to own stock, just not poor.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

a great round up of the difference between work versus toil.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Nice and succinct and 💯

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I agree with you, but this is an "anti work" community, and there's a substantial part of the movement that is techno-utopian and is actively arguing for the dissolution of work in general.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

There is a real chance that a great change is coming. If most of the problems with AI can be overcome (though that's far from certain) there will be a change in the job market of dimensions never seen before. A gigantic loss of jobs and a booming market at the same time.

If that happens and the politicians drop the ball this can be a time of great human suffering and a divide between the rich and the poor worse than ever before.

On the other hand an implementation of general basic income and social redistribution of wealth could lead to a golden age where working is a choice not a necessity.

I know which one I would be betting on. I'm not sure if changes to the current system will be even possible without a violent revolution.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm fairly tech-utopian myself, but it's is more of an aspirational goal that won't help anybody for the foreseeable future. Automation will become capable of performing all human labor, but having it actually do that will take a lot longer because it will require reshaping our whole society. It will essentially mean the end of money, and therefore the end of some people being hugely wealthy compared to everybody else, which those people won't want to let go of.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I understand, but until the technology necessary for a transcendentalist, post-scarcity, post-work society is developed (assuming said technology is even possible), work will remain absolutely necessary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Gosh, I hate to disagree with you, but it seems like multi-generation inheritance might affect the necessity of work for some. Currently.