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All religions are shit. Humanity really needs to shed this primitive baggage already.
I find it interesting when people say this but ignore any wrong doing or suffering caused by secular or atheistic regimes.
Nobody is defending marxist / leninist / maoist or any Communist regime that got people killed... Not even the atheist.
Good try though
I didn't say they are. Good try though
LMFAO 🤣😆
Communism=Atheism?
Not how that works buddy; but good try.
You're very good at strawman. I didn't say communism is atheism. However, you'll find that many communist regimes were atheistic. I'll give an example for atheism and secularism.
The USSR had an atheistic regime, which caused a lot of suffering for its people and surrounding countries they took over. They also didn't like religion and wanted to get rid of it. (https://www.history.com/news/joseph-stalin-religion-atheism-ussr)
All the secular colonial states that have taken over other countries. Plus, the issues that continue to this day. Take the middle east for example and the lines drawn on purpose to keep the region destabilized. Or take francophone Africa which to this day suffers from Frances control over the region through dictators.
That's not straw-manning...
Ok... I think You're forgetting every other war and crusade that was driven by religion. Most of colonialist states were religious.
I don't deny there was crusades or that there was wars inspired or motivated by religion. I never said anything of sorts in my original comments. You're only assuming it.
Bad people will do bad things, sure, but if you want good people to do bad things, you need religion.
That's actually someone's quote... So I wish You give them credit
I'd actually argue the opposite. Religion reigns in bad people. Talk to a religious person, wait until you hear them say something like, "but if there's no god and no afterlife, what's to stop people from murder and rape?" That's all that's holding them back from total anarchy, the threat of eternal suffering and damnation, only for some it's still not enough.
It's not about religion. It's about settler colonialism.
Where do you think "settler colonialism" came from? Directly from religion, it's just a secular name for what religion has been doing since inception.
Early zionism came from secular jews. And christian ethics actually ran counter to manifest destiny.
The search for wealth and power does not come (automatically) from religion. Look at all the peaceful religions and all the violence done without it.
Don't mistake "reason" for "justification", or "excuse".