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Next Generation Internet (NGI) projects adopt platforms Mastodon and PeerTube as main communication channels (ngi.eu)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Sixteen Next Generation Internet (NGI) projects are pleased to announce the transition to Mastodon and PeerTube, two European open-source platforms, for their communication and content-sharing needs. This strategic move aligns with NGI’s commitment to fostering an Internet that embodies European values of trust, security, and inclusion.

"Utilising European-developed platforms like Mastodon and PeerTube enhances digital sovereignty, ensuring that Europe’s digital infrastructure is built on values of openness, collaboration, and respect for fundamental rights. This transition marks a significant step toward a more human-centric Internet, reflecting NGI’s vision for a trustworthy, open, and inclusive digital future," NGI writes on its website.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My instance uses a self hosted XMPP for mods/Admins to communicate quickly, which works quite well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Matrix is essentially secure XMPP.

For fast and secure communications, I’d expect Fediverse mods and admins to be using it, as it doesn’t take much more to set up and use than less secure XMPP variants, and lines up with the ActivityPub worldview.

But I guess people go with what they know, and some people know standard XMPP or Discord.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Matrix has absolutely bonkers resource requirements relative to the end user experience it delivers, and can be much more complex to deploy. Some of that is intrinsic to federation or to its protocol; some is related to Synapse specifically. I'm not sure whether competing server implementations will catch up before Synapse gets a rewrite in a more performant language, but I'm eager for one or the other to happen.

I admin a public Matrix server, so I'm not by any means against the product, but IMO there's a reason it hasn't meaningfully displaced XMPP yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

The problem with XMPP is its encryption UX is dreadful, Matrix got it right with comparing emoji to verify. Also Matrix, despite everything does try to keep its encryption up to date and so all the clients try to follow suit, the same cannot be said for xmpp

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Synapse is a mess, which is why Element is looking to eventually drop it for Dendrite. There's also Conduit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

looking to eventually drop it for Dendrite

https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/issues/3413

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are Dendrite and/or Conduit feature complete/comparable yet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not yet, but Conduit is fairly close if I'm not mistaken.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

XMPP has quite good encryption nowadays, and at least according to our sysadmin, it's quite a bit lighter on system requirements. I think there was also some concerns about the matrix foundation being pretty corporate oriented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Problem is most of the xmpp clients don't have support for the latest encryption versions