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I worry that a lot of people will feel the same.
Do you think if the greens just waved through the haff as-is, we would have gotten $2B extra for public housing? This funding only came after the Greens blocked the haff with extra funding a demand (though I know Labor take all the credit for it).
This is how independents and minor parties work, they can't pass their own bills so they have to negotiate by holding government bills up.
No shit, I’m blocking the road so you’ll have to go around me doesn’t quite sell we’re in favour of building does it? nor when you become inner city nimbys fussing over every minor detail and potentially could be in order to block building
“And our government is not going to wait around while members of the Greens political party call for more housing in the media while opposing it in their electorates and voting against it in the parliament,”
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pm-offers-2b-for-new-homes-ups-pressure-on-greens-on-housing-crisis-20230616-p5dh9d.html
The Greens had been particularly savage about Build to Rent, which they insisted was pro-developer, would would drive gentrification, and would push rents up to benefit “corporate landlords” (if landlords are the villains of the Greens worldview, corporate landlords as boss-level baddies). Nonetheless, the Greens say they will now “wave through” such terrible legislation.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/11/26/greens-declare-victory-labor-housing/
vote for the greens is a vote for the liberals
I already said Labor would like credit for the $2B.
So on one hand the Greens should get out of the way and pass Labor's policies on housing, but also they shouldn't pass this because it's not good enough. I recall the help to buy scheme at least was assessed by the Australia Institute to make literally no difference because of the scale.
Ok champ.
To be fair, Adam Bandt might have pushed the whole charade a bit too far, though, when he declared he would “take the fight to the next election, where we’ll keep Peter Dutton out and then push Labor to act on unlimited rent rises and tax handouts to wealthy property investors”.
Keep Peter Dutton out? The Greens? Consider the seats the Bandt has explicitly said the Greens will target at the next election: Sydney, Macnamara, Wills, Cooper, Richmond. All Labor seats. The Greens will keep Dutton out by… taking seats off Labor. Makes sense. The entire Greens project is to take seats off Labor, understandably. The extent to which a hard-left party cannibalises the vote of a notionally left party, however, matters little to the electability of a right-wing party, beyond the extent to which it makes it easier for the right-wing party to become the largest grouping in Parliament and thus best-placed to form government.
This is true.
I wouldn't say they're cannibalizing the nationally left party though, Labor is centre left at best and we don't have a purely 2 party system like the US so a left wing party could easily run in coalition. Otherwise you could also make the case that the nats cannibalise the libs.
If neither major party has the numbers to form majority government next election then they will deal with a minor/independent to form government, the Green's obtaining more seats means if Labor is serious about forming government they would have to deal with them.
If Labor wanted the support of left-wing voters, maybe they should stop pushing centrist, even right-wing, policies. Consequences, etc.
If the greens wanted the support of left-wing voters, maybe they should stop pushing centrist, even right-wing, policies. Consequences, etc.
No, you are. Checkmate.