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Crowd cheered as two transgender women were attacked in Minneapolis, advocates say (www.independent.co.uk)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22334414

Summary

Two transgender women, Dahlia and Jess, were attacked at a Minneapolis rail station, with onlookers cheering their assailants instead of helping.

After confronting a man yelling transphobic slurs, the situation escalated into a violent assault involving four or five others, leaving both women unconscious.

Advocates attribute the rise in anti-trans violence to emboldened transphobia fueled by misinformation and political rhetoric, including Donald Trump’s anti-LGBTQ+ policies.

The local trans community is responding with solidarity rallies, self-defense classes, and firearm training to prepare for a potential increase in attacks.

Police are investigating, but no arrests have been made.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

That's dismissing all the actions that led up to being beaten. Once the first punch is thrown, sure do whatever you can to defend yourself. Unless we get video of the incident, we probably won't know for sure what happened. But at least according to the article the victims "confronted" their harassers. I ride the MSP light rail everyday. Been harassed by, mostly mentally ill or drug addicted people, dozens of times. It sucks, but every time I keep my mouth shut and I walk away. One guy did try to punch me, but he missed and I was long gone before he had another chance. Don't "confront" these psychos if you're not ready for a fight.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's dismissing all the ~~actions~~ clothing choices that led up to being ~~beaten~~ raped.

See how ridiculous your argument sounds now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

No, not really. I don’t think the two situations are all that comparable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

I'm really not dismissing anything. I'm saying that they absolutely could have ignored those men. But I also do not think they did anything wrong in confronting them - unless they used force themselves, which we won't know unless a video comes out.

Those men threw the first punch, and I'm saying that you should be ready for something like that, and you should do whatever you can to defend yourself.

"Confronted" does not imply violence, I have no reason to believe the women were violent initially. You're acting like they started the fight when confrontation could range anywhere from a full-on shouting match to asking them to stop saying that bullshit.

A guy did try to punch them, he didn't miss, they weren't long-gone after that because more men joined in. All I'm saying is it's wise to keep a firearm (or Taser, or pepper spray) in case of an assault like that, and they're right to defend themselves in that case.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

More victim blaming. You're disgusting.

Besides that, not everyone's gonna live just like you. Though you say we may not know for sure what happened, you assume that they straight-up started a fight with five guys because they did anything at all, which is wrong because it's not what you would do. For all you claim to know the "confrontation" was them just saying "Hey, don't call us that!" but you openly insist that they brought that brutality on themselves.

What a great way to make a better world, just sit down and shut up unless someone's calling out a problem, at which point they're the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Aren’t you victim blaming as well, at least by your definition? They could have defended themselves if only they had a gun is putting the blame on them. I don’t really think either of you are victim blaming but at least be consistent.

The assailants are to blame, period. But that does not mean that the victims could not have avoided this. Acknowledging that is not the same as saying it was their fault and they are to blame. It is acknowledging their agency as people being assaulted (first verbally, then physically) and acknowledging that their options go beyond doing nothing, being assaulted, and buying and carrying a lethal weapon with them everywhere, much less shooting in a public building.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

I didn't say anything about a gun. I don't think anyone here said what you're accusing me of saying.

I don't really have anything new to say to your gross-ass insistence that people focus on how the victims are ~~to blame~~ "able to avoid such situations." Their attackers could've avoided that situation. Are you sure the victims could have, just by wearing less revealing clothing- wait, wrong situation. By simply walking away? No one's ever been hurt trying to get away in your world?

This argument really doesn't feel worth my time. Either you respect someone's right to exist or you don't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

I’m just going by what the article says. If we find something different happened, I’d be willing to change my stance.