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The biggest winners of this US elections are the corporations
Regardless of party! Because we’re such a great country full of decadence that we have not one but two pro capitalist pro imperialism pro forever war parties!
"The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."
Yeah that was the quote I was trying to go for but couldn’t quite remember
we'll see. Media companies, gas companies and private prisons for sure win here, other corporations may suffer if they enact most of these policies:
Invading cities with the US military will destroy real estate markets. My guess is this is a bluff.
Rounding up immigrants (lets not pretend they'll be checking documents) will destroy agricultural corps and one of the US' largest exports
Tariffs will drastically damage consumer spending and costs for electronics (which will indirectly hike data center costs).
Tax cuts will radically increase inflation again.
I know it's not a very hip position right now but I think the incoming administration will turn out to be mostly hype. They'll get bogged down trying to get the blue states to comply with some insane piece of legislation on something with no federal jurisdiction, and blame their failure to do anything on that.
I mean they have the presidency, the house, the Senate, and the supreme court, gonna be difficult to lay the blame.
They had the same situation the first two years of Trump's first presidency. The blame did no good.
Mostly what saved us before was the incompetence, and that's already rearing its head again. Stupid thing to rely upon, though.
Fair point
I'm thinking similarly and that the Democrats will use the Senate filibuster to block as many things as they can. Of course, conservatives may end up changing the filibuster and ram through all their terrible policies, then they'd only have until the midterms to pass all the crazy stuff they want to pass. Unless they figure out an illegitimate way to stay in power and go full fascist authoritarian on us. No matter what, the next few years are gonna be terrible.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like copium to me. Why would this fascist authoritarian regime be less successful than all of the other big fascist authoritarian regimes in history? They don't care about the law.
I instinctively downvoted this because 'copium' is one of those load words that carries distain without engagement. Why? Because they usually are unsuccessful. They usually fizzle out. Some authoritarian regimes achieve weight and have a war, but that's not always the case. UKs govt was borderline insane for, like, 8 years and that's kinda mellowed now. France has had its flirtations, but it never really stuck. And ultimately I'm an optimist. And the word 'copium' is just short hand for 'optimists are naive and wrong' which... feels unwarranted to me
I'm sorry, but I feel that optimism, in this case, is both naïve and wrong.
That is not a word I generally throw freely around.
Yeah well fair play. I think you're cynical, wrong, and actively increasing the probability of your unwanted outcome coming to pass by your language, so I guess we both just very strongly disagree with each other. But at least we can do it politely so at least there's some hope.
I am, without a doubt, cynical. I will happily accept that label. And I hope for everyone's sake that I am wrong.
They already had to drop Gaetz as a nominee. Likely because too many R senators said nah.
While I’m not going to say this will happen with all the other crazy proposals. If some Copium helps us get through the next 2 years minimum, and we can stay in the fight, maybe we can hold on to this place.
Even fentanyl works on pain for a while, let’s just hope the country isn’t in hospice yet.